smoking

No but you can run and still be a good smoker.

Herb Elliot says hello.

And let's not forget Michael Jazy, supposedly a two pack-a-day smoker.

After he broke the Mile WR with a 3:53, he immediately went for a cigarette. And I don't mean outside the locker room after a cooldown--he was smoking trackside within a minute or two of finishing.

Brent wrote:

And let's not forget Michael Jazy, supposedly a two pack-a-day smoker.

After he broke the Mile WR with a 3:53, he immediately went for a cigarette. And I don't mean outside the locker room after a cooldown--he was smoking trackside within a minute or two of finishing.

Who the hell cares if some guy ran well and smoked? He didn't run near as well as he could have. Don't be a lame-ass. Smoking sucks.

oh, so if mike jazy did it, we should ... no smoking greatly inhibits your performance

monster wrote:

Who the hell cares if some guy ran well and smoked? He didn't run near as well as he could have. Don't be a lame-ass. Smoking sucks.

so...youre saying he could have run like 3:45?

I forget who it was, but they did a study that proved that smoking a cigarette right before race or hard workout imporved lung capacity.

obviously, my user name is turkish, but what you may not know is that it's also the name of a type of cigarette manufactured by camel. i used to smoke these. i also used to smoke american spirits, marlboro lights, and p-funks (parliaments), cigars, and herb. i smoked it all (minus crack and pole of course).

one day during the winter of 2005 i was running in a track meet at the university of wisconsin stevens point. i had just finished running the mile (4:36 i believe) and it was time for a cool down. my roommate was about the head out the door for a three miler with some unattached runner. i tried to run with them, but simply couldn't do it. i was simply too drained and mentally out of it. i decided to walk to my house and cook up some fried eggs. i made about three of them, sprinkled some cheese on 'em (the pre-grated stuff - mexican blend). then i went into my basement and smoked two or three camel turkish golds. mmmmmmm.

but as i stood in my dank basement smoking cigarettes, i soon realized that i had to run the four by four. i actually thought i might have missed it, but decided to swing by the track anyway. so i went up the stairs, headed out the front door, lit a cig and walked the half mile to campus. i was all giggly when i arrived because cigarettes do that to me and i smelt like a mickey pub. i'm sure my coach smelt it on me and some other people certainly knew i was hopped up on the tobaccy as well, but me being me, not to mention the stimulant effect of tobacco, gave me cause to not really give a damn. instead, i stepped to that line, took off my sweats, looked at my three teammates and said, "today's the f***in' day."

i was anchoring the four by four. i think we were the "e" team or maybe even the "f" team, but when that baton came around the final turn of the third leg, i got in position, still reminiscing my "today's the f***in' day" statement, and "baaamm!" i took off. i got close to high gear pretty damn early and set my eyes on the shoulder blades of the guy ahead of me. i was graceful and poised, like a gazelle on the plains of africa, my stoicism was impenetrable. i rounded the second turn and the crowd went "wooooosh." i had about a half a gear in storage, so i employed it just before i crossed the 200m mark. now i was cookin' up the good shit, just like the eggs i had fried up earlier in the day. i was making quick ground on "mr. shoulder-blades" and nobody had passed me, so the final 130m or so was all kodak. i might've been locking up, but i kept my form. i might've been running out of track, but i was running out of mind. transcendental maharashi shit. i ended up splitting a 52.26; my fastest 400m split ever, indoors and out. it was a moment of great joy, a cause for celebration, and a cause for contemplation.

[important: read the following slowly, with long dramatic pause and in a sean connery voice. pretend it's the introspective ending to some coming of age film directed by jonathan demme.]

i really miss those days. truly. but now, sitting here, old and long forgotten, i reminisce the days of my youth, the days of conquest and triumph, the days of lore. i miss the track, the field and the wood. the smell of sunshine and sweet pine dust. gay runs in the forests of my kinsmen are but a mere shadow to me now, an image projected vaguely on a stream as it washes away.

an image projected on a stream as it washes away...

That's cute.

monster wrote:

Who the hell cares if some guy ran well and smoked?

Apparently, you do. You sure seem worked up about it.

He didn't run near as well as he could have.

How do you know this? The guy ran 3:53, by himself, on a chewed up cinder track to set a world record. He also set the 2000 meter world record twice, the second time in 4:56, a world record that stood for 10 years. He also set the 3000 meter world record twice and the two-mile world record twice (the last one 8:22 in 1965). I suppose he could've run better, but how much better could he have been?

Don't be a lame-ass. Smoking sucks.

I don't smoke. I have never smoked, and I don't plan to smoke. I think smoking is bad for one's long-term health. But it's obviously possible to be a smoker and yet still be an elite competitor. Why should we pretend that this isn't true?

It's probably possible to run reasonably well and smoke - but why do you want to? Smoking is disgusting. It makes you smell gross, it makes your breath gross, it makes your teeth gross, it can make you impotent, it's just all-around nasty. The only girls who like smokers are girls who smoke, and they get all gross themselves after a few years of smoking. Runners are hot, smokers are not, so just give up the smoking!

runners are not hot you stupid idiot. stop feeding people your bullshit. Even the hottest running girls dont hold a candle to your every day average cheerleader. and as for guys, at what point in time did looking like a slim jim equate to being hott. Never, thats when.

Game over

I am hot and I used to be a runner!!!

Smoking is cool. Look at how cool I am. Ain't nobody cooler.

Steve Prefontaine was a notorious weed smoker.

You can get away with it when you're young. At age 25 someone might have been smokeing for 5 to 10 years. What happens when you've been smokeing 30 to 35 years. You ever see old people in cigarette adds?

Cars breath through air filters which are changed every year. Can you change your lungs. Take your cigarette money and by running shoes.

meow wrote:

runners are not hot you stupid idiot. stop feeding people your bullshit. Even the hottest running girls dont hold a candle to your every day average cheerleader. and as for guys, at what point in time did looking like a slim jim equate to being hott. Never, thats when.

Game over

Yea, you're right, I've never seen a hot runner.

Smokers have higher levels of EPO.

does anyone live with a smoker? do they smoke outside? Do you use an air filtration system?