7:57i, 8:01i, & 3:58i, so I guess the track was short? SHUT UP about RunningLane!

Good team, short course.

Bump

Zat0pek wrote:

Three guys on the same high school team run 7:57i, 8:01i, and 3:58i on the same day, and the 3:58 wins the pro race.

Please shut up about RunningLane.

Please shut up about Brosnan.

All of these guys really are that good at what they do - the athletes, the coach, and the event organizers.

You don’t like it, then up your game.

Ritz’s best indoor 3000m was 8:13 in HS. Aaron ran 8:01. 12 seconds faster.

Aaron ran 14:14 at RL

Was Ritz’s course short? How is it possible that he ran 14:10 (4 seconds faster than Aaron). In addition, Ritz ran all alone. Aaron had the benefit of running with a pack for the whole race.

Zat0pek wrote:

Three guys on the same high school team run 7:57i, 8:01i, and 3:58i on the same day, and the 3:58 wins the pro race.

Please shut up about RunningLane.

Please shut up about Brosnan.

All of these guys really are that good at what they do - the athletes, the coach, and the event organizers.

You don’t like it, then up your game.

+100

Letsrun whining haters will always snivel. So hassashhhaaaahhha to them.

Plus there not privileged AF. The Salman’s dad I’d a Deputy. Since when is law enforcement privileged. AF.

Newbury Park is talented and they work hard. Accept it haters.

Just because the kids are fast does not mean I can't hate Brosnan.

Everyone's entitled to their own opinions, just not their own facts.

One bloody good thing about Newbury Park - they never stop doing their best just because someone doesn't give them credit.

Whatever these guys accomplish from here on out -- ever, they've cemented themselves on the USA High School Hall of Fame.

Kudos, gents.

oldoldrunner wrote:

Zat0pek wrote:

Three guys on the same high school team run 7:57i, 8:01i, and 3:58i on the same day, and the 3:58 wins the pro race.

Please shut up about RunningLane.

Please shut up about Brosnan.

All of these guys really are that good at what they do - the athletes, the coach, and the event organizers.

You don’t like it, then up your game.

+100

Letsrun whining haters will always snivel. So hassashhhaaaahhha to them.

Plus there not privileged AF. The Salman’s dad I’d a Deputy. Since when is law enforcement privileged. AF.

Newbury Park is talented and they work hard. Accept it haters.

Since when isnt law enforcemnent priveledges AF? We are talking a 100k+ job with a huge pension after 30 years and other great benefits. What world do you live in where that isnt a priviledged life?

bsrggsbsgr wrote:

Since when isnt law enforcemnent priveledges AF? We are talking a 100k+ job with a huge pension after 30 years and other great benefits. What world do you live in where that isnt a priviledged life?

Law enforcement officers are among the most patriotic people in the land. I just found another reason to root for Newbury and especially the Sahlman bros. The typical salary for an officer in Newbury Park is 52K a year, so not so much for someone risking their lives so you can whine about Brosnan's politics.

ppllll wrote:

Zat0pek wrote:

Three guys on the same high school team run 7:57i, 8:01i, and 3:58i on the same day, and the 3:58 wins the pro race.

Please shut up about RunningLane.

Please shut up about Brosnan.

All of these guys really are that good at what they do - the athletes, the coach, and the event organizers.

You don’t like it, then up your game.

Ritz’s best indoor 3000m was 8:13 in HS. Aaron ran 8:01. 12 seconds faster.

Aaron ran 14:14 at RL

Was Ritz’s course short? How is it possible that he ran 14:10 (4 seconds faster than Aaron). In addition, Ritz ran all alone. Aaron had the benefit of running with a pack for the whole race.

No. Ritz finished 3rd at the World Junior CC Championships in an 8K race.

His 14:10 was run on the same Mich Intl Speedway course that hosts the Mich state meet for 25 years now.

Riley Hough’s best time on the same MIS course is 14:49 (as a junior, he only ran 14:56 this year). He could’ve reasonably run 14:30-:35 on a perfect weather day this year given his average improvements on the courses from last year to this year.

Aaron finished 4 seconds behind Hough at RL.

Heartless wrote:

ppllll wrote:

Ritz’s best indoor 3000m was 8:13 in HS. Aaron ran 8:01. 12 seconds faster.

Aaron ran 14:14 at RL

Was Ritz’s course short? How is it possible that he ran 14:10 (4 seconds faster than Aaron). In addition, Ritz ran all alone. Aaron had the benefit of running with a pack for the whole race.

No. Ritz finished 3rd at the World Junior CC Championships in an 8K race.

His 14:10 was run on the same Mich Intl Speedway course that hosts the Mich state meet for 25 years now.

Riley Hough’s best time on the same MIS course is 14:49 (as a junior, he only ran 14:56 this year). He could’ve reasonably run 14:30-:35 on a perfect weather day this year given his average improvements on the courses from last year to this year.

Aaron finished 4 seconds behind Hough at RL.

Why are you still trying to do this goofy course to course comparison thing when Aaron Sahlman has just run the 4th fastest 3000m in prep history while being the 4th fastest runner on his team? I think it’s just time for you guys to admit you’re wrong lol, or just secretly cry behind your screen while you witness record lists being continuously rewritten by people that you can’t do anything but belittle.

Heartless wrote:

ppllll wrote:

Ritz’s best indoor 3000m was 8:13 in HS. Aaron ran 8:01. 12 seconds faster.

Aaron ran 14:14 at RL

Was Ritz’s course short? How is it possible that he ran 14:10 (4 seconds faster than Aaron). In addition, Ritz ran all alone. Aaron had the benefit of running with a pack for the whole race.

No. Ritz finished 3rd at the World Junior CC Championships in an 8K race.

His 14:10 was run on the same Mich Intl Speedway course that hosts the Mich state meet for 25 years now.

Riley Hough’s best time on the same MIS course is 14:49 (as a junior, he only ran 14:56 this year). He could’ve reasonably run 14:30-:35 on a perfect weather day this year given his average improvements on the courses from last year to this year.

Aaron finished 4 seconds behind Hough at RL.

Colin Sahlman finished 1st in a professional race against adults and ran 1 second faster than Alan Webb ran indoors as a high schooler in a race where he finished 3rd. See, I can say fun stats that don’t mean anything too!

3000m indoor ranking:

Nico 7:56.97 (NXN winner)

Lex 7:57.06 (3rd at RL)

Hunter 7:59.33 (Footlocker winner)

Aaron 8:01.72 (6th at RL)

Ches 8:05.46 (Footlocker winner)

Lindgren 8;06.3 (he would have been FL winner)

LV 8:07.54 (Footlocker winner)

…

Ritz 8:13.1 (Footlocker winner)

Notice anything strange in this list? Anybody stick out?

Why do people think 5K XC results are going to correlate exactly to a 3k race on the track? Their coach has said Aaron has the most speed of the group, hes gonna be better when the distance gets lower.

runningfan87 wrote:

Why do people think 5K XC results are going to correlate exactly to a 3k race on the track? Their coach has said Aaron has the most speed of the group, hes gonna be better when the distance gets lower.

And Lex is a speed demon, which explains why he ran 3000m 16s faster than Ritz

ppllll wrote:

Zat0pek wrote:

Three guys on the same high school team run 7:57i, 8:01i, and 3:58i on the same day, and the 3:58 wins the pro race.

Please shut up about RunningLane.

Please shut up about Brosnan.

All of these guys really are that good at what they do - the athletes, the coach, and the event organizers.

You don’t like it, then up your game.

Ritz’s best indoor 3000m was 8:13 in HS. Aaron ran 8:01. 12 seconds faster.

Aaron ran 14:14 at RL

Was Ritz’s course short? How is it possible that he ran 14:10 (4 seconds faster than Aaron). In addition, Ritz ran all alone. Aaron had the benefit of running with a pack for the whole race.

Maybe because Ritz had sh!t speed and was more of a 5k-10k guy than the NP kids? Maybe he just never had an optimal 3k in HS? Maybe because you can't easily predict someone's pb's like a math problem?

runningfan87 wrote:

Why do people think 5K XC results are going to correlate exactly to a 3k race on the track? Their coach has said Aaron has the most speed of the group, hes gonna be better when the distance gets lower.

Because they are into alternative facts. No matter what’s the truth is they’ll make up there own.

I posted a couple of months ago Lil S maybe the sleeper because his coach said his a lots of speed.

uhhhh ok karen wrote:

ppllll wrote:

Ritz’s best indoor 3000m was 8:13 in HS. Aaron ran 8:01. 12 seconds faster.

Aaron ran 14:14 at RL

Was Ritz’s course short? How is it possible that he ran 14:10 (4 seconds faster than Aaron). In addition, Ritz ran all alone. Aaron had the benefit of running with a pack for the whole race.

Maybe because Ritz had sh!t speed and was more of a 5k-10k guy than the NP kids? Maybe he just never had an optimal 3k in HS? Maybe because you can't easily predict someone's pb's like a math problem?

..,and Lex is a 800/1500 guy

Maybe Ritz should have sacked up and ran a faster 3k then. Idek what you idiots are trying to argue here. Is the Armory track short. Do the shoes lop 15 seconds off your times??

These kids are going to rewrite the record books over the next 2 years and morons on the site cant appreciate it, just have to hate on every single post its tiring.

Moran.

I was responding to a person that just did the course to course comparison, with a course to course comparison of my own to prove otherwise. That was kind of the point. But given your below average mental capabilities, you couldn’t grasp it. My apologies.

None of us are wrong about the RL course being a joke. Entire fields of runners PRing by :20-:50 IS a joke. Always has been. Always will be.

You keep conflating mockery of the silly RL course with criticizing NP. They aren’t the same thing.

Since you’re obviously young and ignorant-

You do realize high schoolers chasing incredible indoor times in January / February is a relatively new phenomenon, right? Especially for guys in the Midwest who deal with actual winter weather. Ritz, for instance, never ran time trial style races like this indoors. Ritz never traveled to another state or raced big meets on a banked/oversized indoor track in high school. He would only travel for indoor nationals (which were also all on flat tracks back then).

The NP guys are incredible. Literally no one on LRC has said that they aren’t. No one. But there were a few guys right with them at RL. And the times they just ran- though blazing fast- have been run in even the very recent past. Hunter, who also did the surprising Jan/Feb Mile/3000m push his senior year, went 3:57.8 and 7:58 (on a flat track) indoors.