With conversions.
With conversions.
Hoping 3:57.04 will get in to NCAA finals!!!!
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Yep, deepest ever.
In 2000, 4:01, 8:02 and 14:06 qualified.
Quite a change.
I can see why Kessler decided to pass on NCAA. Way too competitive.
Now 41 sub four, two more at BU today.
Someone go through and look at how many are 6th years or more because of covid
The 3000m is even more scary. Already 7 guys have gone sub 7:50.
A bunch of guys have not even run the event yet.
Nico
Nur
Nuguse
Gilman
Keane
Bosley…
In addition, 6 guys have run 7:51
Some guys may not make it to NCAA with a 7:51
coalsplitter wrote:
With conversions.
So F'ing what. Newflash the 4 minute mile was broken in 1954 and you fools are still thinking breaking 4 minutes is something to write home about.
Do you want them breaking 3:40?
jjjii wrote:
The 3000m is even more scary. Already 7 guys have gone sub 7:50.
A bunch of guys have not even run the event yet.
Nico
Nur
Nuguse
Gilman
Keane
Bosley…
In addition, 6 guys have run 7:51
Some guys may not make it to NCAA with a 7:51
I wouldn't call that "more scary" (3:57 is about 7:51) but yes the 3k list is also going to be quite strong. We already saw this in 2020, pre-super spikes, where 12 men broke 7:50 and there was a 7:51 guy (Ari Klau) left at home. I expect it to take 7:49 and 3:56 to be top 16 this year. A couple guys might make it in with slower times off scratches, but it's still going to be super hard. The bar has been raised.
cramister wrote:
Do you want them breaking 3:40?
Only nerd out of touch distance runners still refer to the WR in 1954 as something to talk about.
You don't people saying hey.....45 guys in college threw 60 feet in the shot. That would be a big deal in 1950's, not in 2022. Pick almost any event and tons of guys are exceeding the WR from 1954. 4 minutes is a solid time, nothing to write home about.
Breaking a 4 minute mile is still a solid accomplishment and I think it is used a a benchmark b/c not too long ago that would qualify one for the NCAAs but this year the cut-off will be way lower.
A little over 600 American men have broken a 4 minute mile since Don Bowden first did it in 1957 and while it is more common today that works out to fewer than 10 new members per year on average going back 65 years. For that reason I think it's a pretty good discussion point. Maybe not that we are seeing 30+ people American's joining the club we should talk about a 3:57 but that also doesn't have the same ring to it.
Super spikes really be crazy...part of it is 5th/6th year seniors, but also I think the shoes gotta be at least 2-3 seconds for most people (admittedly some probably don't get much benefit)