Can someone help me understand the weight loss theory Nick Willis employed before winning bronze at the 2016 Olympics?

He meant that it would not matter, in a detrimental sense, if he maintained his same power and strength as his weight decreased.

I think he's framing his weight lose in a positive light given the audience.

Or he's talking about increasing his power-to-weight ratio and he's suggesting, in a less than clear way, that he's more concerned about increasing the numerator (lift) and doesn't care about the denominator (weight).

He knows exactly what he's doing with the calorie consumption to lose weight and adding an additional (or increased) stimulus to achieve those ends.

You don't loss 10 pounds in 2 months (given his already light build) under the guise of not caring about losing weight. He's playing to the audience - that's fine - still a fan.

-Krispy

krispy kremlin._._._._. wrote:

I think he's framing his weight lose in a positive light given the audience.

Or he's talking about increasing his power-to-weight ratio and he's suggesting, in a less than clear way, that he's more concerned about increasing the numerator (lift) and doesn't care about the denominator (weight).

He knows exactly what he's doing with the calorie consumption to lose weight and adding an additional (or increased) stimulus to achieve those ends.

You don't loss 10 pounds in 2 months (given his already light build) under the guise of not caring about losing weight. He's playing to the audience - that's fine - still a fan.

-Krispy

No the first response was correct but it is easy to see how one could misconstrue this. When he says he did not care about losing weight, what he meant was not that he was indifferent about losing weight (he wanted to lose weight), what he meant was that he was not CONCERNED about the possible detrimental aspects of losing weight as long as he retained his strength and power in the weight room.

Amazing. Willis is a genius for tactically cutting weight for important competitions because being lighter with the same strength = being faster. But Salazar is an evil bully for telling his athletes it is important to keep their asses from getting too fat.

fadasfasadfsdf wrote:

Amazing. Willis is a genius for tactically cutting weight for important competitions because being lighter with the same strength = being faster. But Salazar is an evil bully for telling his athletes it is important to keep their asses from getting too fat.

Because Salazar suggested this for women.

MohammedA wrote:

fadasfasadfsdf wrote:

Amazing. Willis is a genius for tactically cutting weight for important competitions because being lighter with the same strength = being faster. But Salazar is an evil bully for telling his athletes it is important to keep their asses from getting too fat.

Because Salazar suggested this for women.

No because Salazar would verbally abuse his athletes and did not deal with weight in a healthy or respectful way. My coach hosted a meet where Mary ran poorly and right after the race, in the middle of the infield in front of everyone, Salazar screamed at her about bad poor performance and weight.

Weight and strength-to-weight ratio matter a lot, especially the more elite you are, but you have to have some sensitivity around the subject, especially with a teenager who is still growing and developing physically and mentally.

So....yes. Salazar is a genius. His runners were world class so it was working.

The point is not that you dont lose energy if you lose weight while you lift, its that he knew he wasn’t losing too much weight if his lifting was staying the same.

If you’re cutting weight hard, you’re lifting performance will go in the toilet.

If you can lift as well as before, you’re probably not losing so much weight as to be detrimental to performance

This could have been the time when Nick was addicted to porn and was over fapping causing elevated T levels.

femurboy69 wrote:

MohammedA wrote:

Because Salazar suggested this for women.

No because Salazar would verbally abuse his athletes and did not deal with weight in a healthy or respectful way. My coach hosted a meet where Mary ran poorly and right after the race, in the middle of the infield in front of everyone, Salazar screamed at her about bad poor performance and weight.

Weight and strength-to-weight ratio matter a lot, especially the more elite you are, but you have to have some sensitivity around the subject, especially with a teenager who is still growing and developing physically and mentally.

SCREAMED, really?

You can't "increase your power in the weight room" unless you build muscle which would cause your weight to increase if your body fat stayed the same.

He's simply talking about reducing fat and increasing muscle.

He’s saying he could still maintain his power from his 155 lb frame transitioning to his 145 lb frame through lots of lifting.

A big concern when cutting in middle distance is upsetting your power to body weight ratio. When your bodyfat is already pretty low, weight loss usually comes at the price of at least SOME muscle mass. Losing muscle mass can mess up both raw speed and running economy.

fadasfasadfsdf wrote:

Amazing. Willis is a genius for tactically cutting weight for important competitions because being lighter with the same strength = being faster. But Salazar is an evil bully for telling his athletes it is important to keep their asses from getting too fat.

Wow, you sound very thick.

As a prof, I have suggested that students form study groups. Say that a colleague of mine suggests this, while also calling the students names and otherwise humiliating them in front of their peers.

Can you see the difference?

TMADDDHASFNE wrote:

This could have been the time when Nick was addicted to porn and was over fapping causing elevated T levels.

Probably the period when he got over his porn addiction. NoFap crowd have us believe that fapping causes decreased T levels, hence we should NoFap.

Scientific studies suggest that stopping masturbation will increase t levels for a few days and then reduce them the longer you continue NoFap.

Unless he was 'edging' in the portaloo before big races, like Frank Shuffler...I mean Frank Shorter.

fadasfasadfsdf wrote:

Amazing. Willis is a genius for tactically cutting weight for important competitions because being lighter with the same strength = being faster. But Salazar is an evil bully for telling his athletes it is important to keep their asses from getting too fat.

"Tactically" is the key word here. Salazar made up an arbitrary/unrealistic goal weight and flipped out when it wasn't hit at some meaningless point in the off-season when there was no race to peak for.

Rojo, we proud you four posting about running topic and not random thing. Good job by you! Keep it up!

Nick is great, but I'm not a fan of advertising a plan like this. It's confusing at best and encouraging people to eat less until you feel bad...not good advice to share broadly.

Anecdotal, but when I cut, I feel like I lose power and stamina. Probably from the caloric deficit. Not sure any amount of lifting would reverse that (maybe the opposite).

When I did keto for example, running became difficult. Hard to tell if it was the caloric deficit or lack of carbs, and inefficient fat burn that was occurring instead.