Calling BS on Coach Jon Green and Molly Seidel Magical Transformation Story

OozmaKappa wrote:

Maybe the secret is that he advised Molly to drop weight and she actually listened.

Jon Green claims nothing of the sort. In the article he claims to have a connection to Mike Smith who is coaching Galen Rupp and then he read a training book. What believable and clean guys /s. Jon Green and Molly Seidel BS story is making me puke it is so not believable.

"What’s even more surprising is Green has never run a marathon, never coached another elite athlete, and has zero coaching qualifications.

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“When we were thinking about the training, we were actually setting up to try and get on the 10k team. This marathon was a stepping stone to get stronger for the 10k.” For the marathon specific work, Green called on relationships he had with former college coaches, including Mike Smith, who is now coaching Galen Rupp. “I spoke with Mike Smith a lot and he helped me understand what some of the key parts of a training plan might be. I read Inside a Marathon by Scott Fauble and Ben Rosario"

Like a national class runner can’t figure out how to write workouts. And a FL and NCAA champion can’t get good once healthy.

Imimpresssed wrote:

Like a national class runner can’t figure out how to write workouts. And a FL and NCAA champion can’t get good once healthy.

Jon Green has never even run a marathon or coached anyone and Molly Seidel was an injured has been who never even remotely approached this world class level. Yet, we are supposed to believe that in less than a year Green was able to magically transform has been Seidel to be far, far faster than she ever was with only 1 or 2 other women in the world better than her at the Olympic marathon? I've got magical beans to sell you

So do you have anything substantive to add, or are you just throwing out wild and unwarranted speculation?

He has kept her healthy, she runs a lot, and is gifted athlete. Listened to him on a podcast and has been running a number of years. Jon sounds like a smart guy. Coaching running isn't rocket science.

Gucci wrote:

So do you have anything substantive to add, or are you just throwing out wild and unwarranted speculation?

Yes I do. LRC posters attack East Africans for far more believable stories than Jon Green and Molly "Cinderella Transformation" Seidel.

This may just be the most asinine and uninformed take that I have ever read on this site. Bravo for the troll comment of the year!

coahc wrote:

He has kept her healthy, she runs a lot, and is gifted athlete. Listened to him on a podcast and has been running a number of years. Jon sounds like a smart guy. Coaching running isn't rocket science.

Cortisone shots like the ones Galen Rupp takes for his claimed needs also keeps you healthy and let's you run a lot while losing weight in a short period of time.

Son of the Willamette wrote:

This may just be the most asinine and uninformed take that I have ever read on this site. Bravo for the troll comment of the year!

Would you be saying the same thing if Job Green and Molly Seidel were East African? With the extremely high number of American dopers we've seen over the years in running, you really think I'm being uninformed? BALCO and Marion Jones wants a word with you.

MeToo! wrote:

let's you run

Why did you use an apostrophe there? HMMM? Are you, in fact, a Russian bot troll? Is that why you don't know correct English grammar? I think the mods need to dox you, geocache that ISP#.

That's right folks, we got a Russian bot troll right here! Don't engage further, just get the mods to nuke this thread so smash that report button!

MeToo! wrote:

coahc wrote:

He has kept her healthy, she runs a lot, and is gifted athlete. Listened to him on a podcast and has been running a number of years. Jon sounds like a smart guy. Coaching running isn't rocket science.

Cortisone shots like the ones Galen Rupp takes for his claimed needs also keeps you healthy and let's you run a lot while losing weight in a short period of time.

Chronic Cortisone use actually makes you gain weight, in addition to destroying collagen and “thinning” the skin. They don’t “keep you healthy”. They only minimize inflammation in areas of injury or decrease the immune response to something like an allergic reaction.

Please stop. This is how bad information spreads.

glomerulosa fasciculata wrote:

MeToo! wrote:

Cortisone shots like the ones Galen Rupp takes for his claimed needs also keeps you healthy and let's you run a lot while losing weight in a short period of time.

Chronic Cortisone use actually makes you gain weight, in addition to destroying collagen and “thinning” the skin. They don’t “keep you healthy”. They only minimize inflammation in areas of injury or decrease the immune response to something like an allergic reaction.

Please stop. This is how bad information spreads.

You are the one spreading bad information:

Why do you think cortisone injections are so common in endurance sports?

Whoops!!! wrote:

MeToo! wrote:

let's you run

Why did you use an apostrophe there? HMMM? Are you, in fact, a Russian bot troll? Is that why you don't know correct English grammar? I think the mods need to dox you, geocache that ISP#.

That's right folks, we got a Russian bot troll right here! Don't engage further, just get the mods to nuke this thread so smash that report button!

It's much more suspicious that you are spelling correctly on an LRC thread. That clearly indicates you are a paid troll who only recently came here.

I follow her on Strava and that lady trains her balls off. Pretty impressive what she runs weekly, makes me realize how much more I should be doing.

RN2383 wrote:

I follow her on Strava and that lady trains her balls off. Pretty impressive what she runs weekly, makes me realize how much more I should be doing.

Well, duh. Lance Armstrong was also able to train his balls off because he doped up to recover fast to handle the training volume. It is so stupid whenever someone tries to explain away doping by pointing out how much training an athlete does as if that is supposed to prove their innocent.

percy cerutty

You’re reaching here bud. Go back to your sad little basement

Molly is awesome.

You suck.

Case closed.