AMA. I just wore the super shoes for the 1st time ever. Wow. Wow. Wow.

Who cares how you felt walking around your house? That doesn’t prove anything. They’re RUNNING shoes, how did they feel RUNNING and how did you perform RACING in them.

Also, you essentially don’t run anymore, so I have zero interest hearing the opinion of a non-runner on the performance of the shoes. It’s like when some scrub puts on Jordan’s and is like “I’m such a better player now!” No, no you’re not

The results of my super scientific study are in.

Warmup jog. Barely broke 13 minute (I did walk some of it and was pushing a dog stroller and hadn't stretched).

https://www.letsrun.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/warmup.jpg

I then stretched a did a few drills and put on the shoes and 3 miels in 20:40. 7:19/6:51/6:30

https://www.letsrun.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/3miles.jpg

I guess I don't understand what jogging/shuffling three miles proves?

rojo wrote:

The results of my super scientific study are in.

Warmup jog. Barely broke 13 minute (I did walk some of it and was pushing a dog stroller and hadn't stretched).

WTF is a dog stroller?

I then stretched a did a few drills and put on the shoes and 3 miels in 20:40. 7:19/6:51/6:30

How much day drinking prior?

It's official. Even in supershoes rojo is as slow as me.

Over/under on how many years until this guy breaks 2 bills on the scale?

It’s obvious that ROJO is a “non-responder“. Everyone knows putting on a pair of super shoes immediately results in insanely fast world record pace runs.

Love it.

20:00 for 3 miles is no joke!

Awesome stuff, rojo, love it.

Incredible!

If Rojo is exaggerating even 20%, this shows you what a ridiculous advantage people get from bouncing along in a race. Imagine the advantage as the distances get longer.

Whoever doesnt think these are cheater shoes is delusional.

Tommy2Nuttz wrote:

Incredible!

If Rojo is exaggerating even 20%, this shows you what a ridiculous advantage people get from bouncing along in a race. Imagine the advantage as the distances get longer.

Whoever doesnt think these are cheater shoes is delusional.

No, it doesn't prove anything. In his own words, Rojo says he took a walking break during his warmup jog, while also pushing a "dog stroller" (whatever the f*ck that is), and he might have even deliberately been running slow. Also, it's a warmup jog. Kipchoge runs his warmup jogs in 8 minute pace. But when he races in 4:30 pace while wearing "super shoes," it's not the disparity between the warmup jog and race pace that proves the efficacy of the shoes.

So, to recap: Rojo deliberately sandbags warmup jog, with a walking break, while pushing said "dog stroller."

Then he runs three miles at his current race pace.

This "experiment" proves nothing except that Rojo doesn't really know how to think critically and that he's out of shape

Lets assume for a sec that Rojo has been running long enough to know how a regular running shoe feels like. Why do you ignore how they feel to him?

I dont see why he has to then cheat and run faster than normal.

What Rojo needs to do next time is get in a good warm up (minus dog stroller), then run 2 miles in his reg shoes and 2 miles in the new ones, both at a hard tempo pace and compare his times and effort.

Tommy2Nuttz wrote:

What Rojo needs to do next time is get in a good warm up (minus dog stroller), then run 2 miles in his reg shoes and 2 miles in the new ones, both at a hard tempo pace and compare his times and effort.

This sounds reasonable. When I want to compare shoes, I'll do intervals starting with shoe A, then switching to shoe B, and if I'm still feeling okay, back to shoe A again.

I look at time and heart rate while trying to keep perceived exertion the same. The results were sometimes surprising.

The first time I put mine on I had the same reaction, "I feel like I'm going to fall over." Walking in them the first time I was worried that I had just wasted $250. However, as soon as I started running in them, I noticed a difference and definitely noticed how much less beat up my legs seemed to be the last few miles of the marathon. Broke three hours post age 40 for the first time at age 46.

What "super shoes" were they?

Tommy2Nuttz wrote:

Lets assume for a sec that Rojo has been running long enough to know how a regular running shoe feels like. Why do you ignore how they feel to him?

I dont see why he has to then cheat and run faster than normal.

What Rojo needs to do next time is get in a good warm up (minus dog stroller), then run 2 miles in his reg shoes and 2 miles in the new ones, both at a hard tempo pace and compare his times and effort.

Because how they feel doesn't really prove anything. Hiking boots feel different than normal running shoes--see what I mean?

Your second point about running 2 miles in regular shoes then 2 miles in new ones is actually interesting content. But running a warmup mile in regular shoes, one where he admits he took a walking break and was pushing a dog stroller (?), and then running three miles in super shoes not only doesn't prove anything, it's not interesting content.