Scientists mystified, wary, as Africa avoids COVID disaster

carmine9 wrote:

3. Total nonsense. Africa ranks third with a population of 1.29 billion, representing 16.87% of the world’s population. Africa covers an area of 11,730,000 square miles.

Third in what? Behind China and India? Those are countries and Africa is a continent

carmine9 wrote:

Australia is the world's least densely populated continent, aside from Antartica which does not have a permanent population. Approximately 41.5 million people inhabit an area of 2,969,907 square miles. The continent’s density is 8.37 per square mile.

Australia is a touch under 26M

Malaria exposure and low incidence of Covid has been well noted and currently being studied

peer-review wrote:

Africa has the many of the lowest obesity rates by nation in the world and the average life expectancy is 15-20 years younger than the median covid death. Throw in abundant ivermectin, plenty of sun exposure to keep vitamin D levels up and no fertile ground for Big Pharma to exploit.

This is NOT rocket surgery.

Indeed, this.

It's kinda funny seeing people discuss Covid in Africa, as a comparison. One of the most dumb things I've seen on this forum (and I did live in Africa).

Maybe...... wrote:

peer-review wrote:

Africa has the many of the lowest obesity rates by nation in the world and the average life expectancy is 15-20 years younger than the median covid death. Throw in abundant ivermectin, plenty of sun exposure to keep vitamin D levels up and no fertile ground for Big Pharma to exploit.

This is NOT rocket surgery.

Indeed, this.

It's kinda funny seeing people discuss Covid in Africa, as a comparison. One of the most dumb things I've seen on this forum (and I did live in Africa).

Just to add there's a lot more to it than "just" peer-reviews post, but agree with the main thrust.

Even if a continent has a lot of people, it may not have high population density for purposes of virus transmission if the people are spread out.

Classic. I high population density but the people are spread out!

Good for them, the Nobel prize and all.

The dewormer of choice here remains albendazole, Nobel or not.

Look, for those who don't really understand it's not rocket science....

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7302306/

Their summary:

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"An increase in absolute latitude by one degree is associated with a 2.6% increase in COVID-19 cases per million inhabitants after controlling for several important factors."

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Guess where Africa is folks....

Maybe...... wrote:

Guess where Africa is folks....

..again, Africa is a continent, please. Both northern southern ends of Africa has Mediterranean climate

I never said it wasn't a continent oO, it's a large place :). If you can't understand the logic of the study, then there's not a lot more else to say really.

Maybe...... wrote:

Look, for those who don't really understand it's not rocket science....

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7302306/

Their summary:

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"An increase in absolute latitude by one degree is associated with a 2.6% increase in COVID-19 cases per million inhabitants after controlling for several important factors."

>>

Guess where Africa is folks....

Africa the only continent at that latitude? Not South America? Not some of Asia?

I am Sam wrote:

carmine9 wrote:

3. Total nonsense. Africa ranks third with a population of 1.29 billion, representing 16.87% of the world’s population. Africa covers an area of 11,730,000 square miles.

Third in what? Behind China and India? Those are countries and Africa is a continent

carmine9 wrote:

Australia is the world's least densely populated continent, aside from Antartica which does not have a permanent population. Approximately 41.5 million people inhabit an area of 2,969,907 square miles. The continent’s density is 8.37 per square mile.

Australia is a touch under 26M

My source is the world atlas.

carmine9 wrote:

Maybe...... wrote:

Look, for those who don't really understand it's not rocket science....

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7302306/

Their summary:

>>

"An increase in absolute latitude by one degree is associated with a 2.6% increase in COVID-19 cases per million inhabitants after controlling for several important factors."

>>

Guess where Africa is folks....

Africa the only continent at that latitude? Not South America? Not some of Asia?

No one said that, so not sure what you're waffling on about. If you can't figure it out, then there's probably not a lot else to discuss.

It's not the only factor of course. If you look at other things like hospital beds per capita, you'll also find most African countries way way down the list. People just don't have as much access to healthcare as most Western countries.

I'm sure you will have some irrelevant comment on that as well.

Maybe...... wrote:

carmine9 wrote:

Africa the only continent at that latitude? Not South America? Not some of Asia?

No one said that, so not sure what you're waffling on about. If you can't figure it out, then there's probably not a lot else to discuss.

It's not the only factor of course. If you look at other things like hospital beds per capita, you'll also find most African countries way way down the list. People just don't have as much access to healthcare as most Western countries.

I'm sure you will have some irrelevant comment on that as well.

So. You make the argument that Africa has low Covid deaths and cases due to it's latitude. Right?

I note that other continents share that latitude and are not having the same low Covid problems.

Ergo, the latitude argument is not supported by the facts.

You then say I cannot figure it out and then go to other reasons (hospital beds per capita being low in Africa -- if true -- means Covid deaths are low in Africa? Poor healthcare in Africa means low Coivd? WTF?).

You are not making any sense

So the facts from the study erm aren't correct then ? What aspect of the study do you think is incorrect ?

R.e lack of basic healthcare, means many many people don't have access to hospitals. They don't go to one, they are never recorded. Didn't think I'd have to explain that one really.

Maybe...... wrote:

carmine9 wrote:

So. You make the argument that Africa has low Covid deaths and cases due to it's latitude. Right?

I note that other continents share that latitude and are not having the same low Covid problems.

Ergo, the latitude argument is not supported by the facts.

You then say I cannot figure it out and then go to other reasons (hospital beds per capita being low in Africa -- if true -- means Covid deaths are low in Africa? Poor healthcare in Africa means low Coivd? WTF?).

You are not making any sense

So the facts from the study erm aren't correct then ? What aspect of the study do you think is incorrect ?

Clearly not. S America and Asia share latitude with Africa yet have much higher Covid rates. Therefore any study claiming Covid rates are based on latitude is contradicted by real life facts. Is that not clear to all?

carmine9 wrote:

Maybe...... wrote:

So the facts from the study erm aren't correct then ? What aspect of the study do you think is incorrect ?

Clearly not. S America and Asia share latitude with Africa yet have much higher Covid rates. Therefore any study claiming Covid rates are based on latitude is contradicted by real life facts. Is that not clear to all?

And you are basing that on which studies, that incorporate confounding factors ?

Maybe...... wrote:

R.e lack of basic healthcare, means many many people don't have access to hospitals. They don't go to one, they are never recorded. Didn't think I'd have to explain that one really.

So lack of access to health care = low Covid deaths.

Want to flesh that one out?

carmine9 wrote:

Maybe...... wrote:

R.e lack of basic healthcare, means many many people don't have access to hospitals. They don't go to one, they are never recorded. Didn't think I'd have to explain that one really.

So lack of access to health care = low Covid deaths.

Want to flesh that one out?

Read the quote, the answer is there.