Does everyone here where Vaporflys now?

snailpace wrote:

flyingfrog wrote:

endorphin pros for 100? how, where

Running warehouse was having a sale. 150 and a gift card for $50 for next purchase.

Y’all missed out! Amazing shoe. Lasts easily 400 miles.

Sorry but that statement is a little absurd. I am 68 and have been watching new technology improving shoes for almost 50 years. At what point do the shoes become Cheater Shoes? I guess to prove your manliness you should not run with any shoe models later than the 1960's. (that would be impressive)

And really there was nothing really new about the vaporfly except how brilliantly they combined the existing technology. Now all the other companies are catching up. So at what point does it cease to be Cheater Shoes?

PS And let's not stop with the cheater shoes and go back to the old cinder tracks. Or better yet, DIRT! All tracks should be dirt....and wet.

Film Rep wrote:

I refuse to wear cheater shoes because I'm a real man. If I ever were to fail a drug test, I would blame it on a burrito and point to the fact that I don't wear cheater shoes thus I am not a cheat!

RunningBecky wrote:

Sorry but that statement is a little absurd. I am 68 and have been watching new technology improving shoes for almost 50 years. At what point do the shoes become Cheater Shoes? I guess to prove your manliness you should not run with any shoe models later than the 1960's. (that would be impressive)

And really there was nothing really new about the vaporfly except how brilliantly they combined the existing technology. Now all the other companies are catching up. So at what point does it cease to be Cheater Shoes?

PS And let's not stop with the cheater shoes and go back to the old cinder tracks. Or better yet, DIRT! All tracks should be dirt....and wet.

"Wearing any kind of shoes is cheating. Hell, I set a world record and won an Olympic Gold Medal barefoot." - Abebe Bikila

RunningBecky wrote:

Sorry but that statement is a little absurd. I am 68 and have been watching new technology improving shoes for almost 50 years. At what point do the shoes become Cheater Shoes? I guess to prove your manliness you should not run with any shoe models later than the 1960's. (that would be impressive)

And really there was nothing really new about the vaporfly except how brilliantly they combined the existing technology. Now all the other companies are catching up. So at what point does it cease to be Cheater Shoes?

PS And let's not stop with the cheater shoes and go back to the old cinder tracks. Or better yet, DIRT! All tracks should be dirt....and wet.

Please post links to cheater shoes from 2008, 2012, 2016,2020 so we can see how cheater shoes have not changed much over the years. Please substantiate your claims. I'm not necessarily disputing your claims, I just want proof for myself.

Also, if it is the PEBAX foam that makes all the difference, then why is a full-length carbon fibre plate added to these cheater shoes?

Also also, if it is NOT the full-length fibre carbon plate that makes the difference, then why was the Adidas banned shoe with 3 carbon fibre plates banned?

I need to know - we all need to know.

No question these shoes changed the game and improve running economy, particularly on the road or hard track. However, so many runners wear them now that the ones who don’t are at a serious disadvantage, as my daughter has been all year at her high school meets. Going to buckle and get them. Levels the playing field. Nike, unfortunately, let the genie out of the bottle, and it’s not going back. I won’t buy that brand even though they’re all pretty close.