Who were tougher soldiers in WW2: Germans or Japanese?

Is today a school holiday?

Germans were brave enough to put up a ferocious defense and even full on offenses (Ardennes Offensive) late in the war when there was no legitimate chance at victory inflicting greater losses than the allies planned for. I would say they were more courageous to continue fighting rather than the Japanese who instead of holding their ground more would commit suicide attacks choosing a quick death.

Whomever made the movie decides.

Truth is Here. wrote:

hopped up on methamphetamines.

Meth tablet? I remember hearing this not too long ago. The German soldiers I'm not too sure that they would need any more encouragement to fight their enemies considering that they were the only ones in between their families and red army hoards.

Hitler was extremely Anti-Alcohol and Anti-Tobacco, he believed them to be poison (which is true). There were even posters on walls throughout Germany depicting how horrible these products are for your health. Germany was the first nation to ban smoking on public transport because it cared for its citizens health, and now this Meth story comes about and its 100% unbelievable in my eyes.

There were also attempts to ban smoking throughout the Armed Forces.

The French absolutely rolled over. They are frog eating surrender artists to the extreme.

The Italians only fought spear wielding Ethiopians. Other than that, useless.

The brits were thumped in 99% of all their battles. That's what happens when you have in charge self called "upper class" poofter toffs. We saved them, again, and with no returned gratitude. Should have let them sink completely.

The fact is, many countries had soldiers who fought hard: America, Canada, Poland, Russia, Japan, Germany, Finland, Norway, Scotland. Some were cowards: France, Italy. Some were utterly inept: England.

they're not good soldiers wrote:

The French absolutely rolled over. They are frog eating surrender artists to the extreme.

The Italians only fought spear wielding Ethiopians. Other than that, useless.

The brits were thumped in 99% of all their battles. That's what happens when you have in charge self called "upper class" poofter toffs. We saved them, again, and with no returned gratitude. Should have let them sink completely.

The fact is, many countries had soldiers who fought hard: America, Canada, Poland, Russia, Japan, Germany, Finland, Norway, Scotland. Some were cowards: France, Italy. Some were utterly inept: England.

Why do you refer to then Soviet Union as Russians? Then Soviet Union was much larger than Russia. Soviet Union defeated Germany. Papa Joe Stalin insisted his men fight and fight hard. Battle of Stalingrad was nearly lost. Once victorious at Stalingrad, Stalin had his Soviets marching down hill. Don't get too caught up believing D-Day type movies are WW2 history. Fact: U.S. didn't defeat Germany, U.S. prevented Soviet Union from claiming the entirety of Europe for themselves. Soviets would have won without U.S., it just would have taken Soviet Union a bit longer.

Stalin didn't defeat Germany. Winter did.

Hitler had it won.. if he took Middle East instead of going to Stalingrad. Oh, a man's pride.

I think both countries Germany and Japan fought amazing. I would give the edge to Germany though.

Japan needed to get the US carriers. Technology beat Japan (code breakers and radar).

I think it's interesting how supreme motivation can motivate an entire culture. It really looks like Taiwan is coming up to bat. With chips and semiconductors on the line.

Japanese were tougher man to man

but the Germans had the much better armed forces

If the Germans had had a better commander in chief (than Hitler) they would have won the war

but he was a Nazi so made many many stupid mistakes that caused Germany to lose.

Thank goodness.

BUt reading what the japanese men were willing to endure day to day in the pacific...have to give it to them on a bravery basis.

German soldiers murdered a lot of civilians. That makes them very cowardly. Probably the most cowardly of any soldiers in the last century.

The Mongol Khanate (Soviets) half-breeds were the fiercest soldiers.

clue: whenever people use the rhetorical device 'fact:' about counter-history...don't believe them. They are just trying to firm up an impossible argument.

they're not good soldiers wrote:

The French absolutely rolled over. They are frog eating surrender artists to the extreme.

The Italians only fought spear wielding Ethiopians. Other than that, useless.

The brits were thumped in 99% of all their battles. That's what happens when you have in charge self called "upper class" poofter toffs. We saved them, again, and with no returned gratitude. Should have let them sink completely.

The fact is, many countries had soldiers who fought hard: America, Canada, Poland, Russia, Japan, Germany, Finland, Norway, Scotland. Some were cowards: France, Italy. Some were utterly inept: England.

I guess this is a joke of a post. France were the first to give the Germans a proper fight at the start of the war when the Germans were at peak strength - the only other country who did this was Russia. Brits basically evacuated at Dunkirk but the French did actually keep on fighting despite having a losing battle plan and the Germans took a lot of casualties until the French government sued for an armistice.

The Russians were the toughest soldiers in WW2, and they were the ones who basically defeated the Germans in WW2.

1ub2run wrote:

Stalin didn't defeat Germany. Winter did.

Hitler had it won.. if he took Middle East instead of going to Stalingrad. Oh, a man's pride.

I think both countries Germany and Japan fought amazing. I would give the edge to Germany though.

Japan needed to get the US carriers. Technology beat Japan (code breakers and radar).

I think it's interesting how supreme motivation can motivate an entire culture. It really looks like Taiwan is coming up to bat. With chips and semiconductors on the line.

Found another Hitler-lover/Nazi-lover on this thread.

Battle of Stalingrad: Two choices. Either Germany won or Soviet Union won. Armies either have meteorologists in uniform or meteorologist civilian contractors. Hitler and his admirals & generals did not factor in winter of 1943-1944 in Soviet Union? Who's fault is that? You Hitler & Nazi fan boys do not get to use winter in Soviet Union as an excuse. Next, you will state then Soviet Union was seven time zones and Germany is the size of MN & WI combined. All facts Hitler and his admirals & generals should have considered.

agip wrote:

See Papa Joe Stalin wrote:

Why do you refer to then Soviet Union as Russians? Then Soviet Union was much larger than Russia. Soviet Union defeated Germany. Papa Joe Stalin insisted his men fight and fight hard. Battle of Stalingrad was nearly lost. Once victorious at Stalingrad, Stalin had his Soviets marching down hill. Don't get too caught up believing D-Day type movies are WW2 history. Fact: U.S. didn't defeat Germany, U.S. prevented Soviet Union from claiming the entirety of Europe for themselves. Soviets would have won without U.S., it just would have taken Soviet Union a bit longer.

clue: whenever people use the rhetorical device 'fact:' about counter-history...don't believe them. They are just trying to firm up an impossible argument.

You made a broad general statement. Let'srun mods and let'srun management will not allow us to review day by day, Battle of Stalingrad to Soviets arriving at Hitler's bunker but go ahead and attempt to prove Soviet Union did not win WW2 in Europe.

Sure?? wrote:

Truth is Here. wrote:

hopped up on methamphetamines.

Meth tablet? I remember hearing this not too long ago. The German soldiers I'm not too sure that they would need any more encouragement to fight their enemies considering that they were the only ones in between their families and red army hoards.

Hitler was extremely Anti-Alcohol and Anti-Tobacco, he believed them to be poison (which is true). There were even posters on walls throughout Germany depicting how horrible these products are for your health. Germany was the first nation to ban smoking on public transport because it cared for its citizens health, and now this Meth story comes about and its 100% unbelievable in my eyes.

There were also attempts to ban smoking throughout the Armed Forces.

Hitler was addicted to pervitin and opioids , courtesy of Dr, Med. Theodor Morell.

Wolf's lair wrote:

Both German and Japanese soldiers fought in absolute atrocious conditions, conditions that many soldiers in the armies of today would mutiny over. This is most likely due to ideology and general toughness. The Germans had to protect Europe from Communism that was their drive.

The Japanese I'm not too sure on, the pacific theatre is something I'm not too knowledgeable on. I don't want to quote history channel rubbish because I only use reliable sources.

What was the Japanese motivation that achieved such bravery in the battlefield?

So the Germans protecting Europe from Communism drove them to invade France? Pretty sure they made a turn in the wrong direction on that one. While Hitler hated Bolshevism I'm pretty sure there were some other motives. The holocaust was not driven by a hatred of Communism.

The Japanese were effing crazy. The Germans at least had a shred of Western values when it came to how they handled things militarily. Not to say anything positive about the Germans but Allied POW's with the exception of Russians died at a rate almost 10X higher in Japanese POW camps than in German camps. The Japanese had Kamikazee pilots which was something quite unthinkable to the West. The Japanese fought to the death in situations where any other army would have surrendered. I don't think this says anything about bravery but culturally the Japanese treated warfare in a way that is culturally unacceptable in Western countries. The Germans treated the Russians horribly which was largely due to how the Russians treated their own enemies, but the Germans took a very different approach with the countries of Western Europe and the US.

The Japanese were way tougher.

This myth of the German supersoldier or that German soldiers possessed some kind of toughness that others didn't has been debunked. To the contrary, German soldiers were pretty much cowards most of the time. Their "bravest" moments were spent murdering innocent women and children and they all fled like rats once the Allied armies got close.