Official 2021 Nuttycombe Invite Discussion Thread: BYU vs NC State (W), Iowa State vs Oregon vs Stanford (M)

How many racers run for team? They list about 15 and the entry list. I think a sea state is going to take it but b y u be better in the finals

ContextisKing wrote:

How many racers run for team? They list about 15 and the entry list. I think a sea state is going to take it but b y u be better in the finals

As usual, in the championship races 7 racers per team, with unlimited allowed in the "B" races.

Will Orton try to blow up NC States pack by herself?

Olin Hacker has another year of eligibility? He graduated HS in 2015.

This is exciting! #1 vs #2. Do they actually run all their people? Do they put in a full effort? BYU has been uncharacteristically quiet this year.

My money is on NC State if they both run at the levels we've seen so far. However, I think BYU has more in the tank than we saw in Florida....stay tuned!!

Runnerspace has coverage of this one....how's that going to be?

Men Top 10 Teams

1 Stanford

2 Iowa State

3 Oregon

4 Michigan

5 Wisconsin

6 Syracuse

7 Butler

8 Gonzaga

9 Furman

10 North Carolina

Men Top 10 Individuals

1 Wesley Kiptoo - Iowa State

2 Charles Hicks - Stanford

3 Cole Sprout - Stanford

4 Morgan Beadlescomb - Michigan State

5 Barry Keane - Butler

6 Cooper Teare - Oregon

7 Aaron Bienenfeld - Oregon

8 James Mwaura - Gonzaga

9 Devin Meyrer - Michigan

10 Yacine Guermali - Gonzaga

Women Top 10 Teams

1 NC State

2 BYU

3 New Mexico

4 Washington

5 Minnesota

6 Oklahoma State

7 Notre Dame

8 Michigan State

9 Stanford

10 Providence

Women Top 10 Individuals

1 Whittni Orton - BYU

2 Taylor Roe - Oklahoma State

3 Brynn Brown - North Carolina

4 Bethany Hasz - Minnesota

5 Hannah Steelman - NC State

6 Zofia Dudek - Stanford

7 Katelyn Tuohy - NC State

8 Kelsey Chmiel - NC State

9 Jenna Magness - Michigan State

10 Cailie Logue- Iowa State

Orton wins it wrote:

Men Top 10 Individuals

1 Wesley Kiptoo - Iowa State

2 Charles Hicks - Stanford

3 Cole Sprout - Stanford

4 Morgan Beadlescomb - Michigan State

5 Barry Keane - Butler

6 Cooper Teare - Oregon

7 Aaron Bienenfeld - Oregon

8 James Mwaura - Gonzaga

9 Devin Meyrer - Michigan

10 Yacine Guermali - Gonzaga

Teare in 6th? You’re disrespecting a 13:12 guy

wannabepro25 wrote:

Teare in 6th? You’re disrespecting a 13:12 guy

The sport is cross country and the fact that he will probably be holding hands with Everet for part of the race will slow him down.

Are the above predictions for Nuttycombe? North Carolina will be in Florida so no Brown, not that I would have placed her quite that high anyway. Stefanie Parsons of New Mexico, Julia Heymach of Stanford and Alison Pray of Southern Utah should be near the top, and quite possibly Amanda Vestri of Syracuse as well. Maybe this will be the week some of the Washington ladies show up as well. I am curious how fit Dudek of Stanford is at this time.

Latest forecast says good chance of rain Friday morning so it might be sloppy after the B races.

FastTuohy wrote:

Are the above predictions for Nuttycombe? North Carolina will be in Florida so no Brown, not that I would have placed her quite that high anyway. Stefanie Parsons of New Mexico, Julia Heymach of Stanford and Alison Pray of Southern Utah should be near the top, and quite possibly Amanda Vestri of Syracuse as well. Maybe this will be the week some of the Washington ladies show up as well. I am curious how fit Dudek of Stanford is at this time.

Latest forecast says good chance of rain Friday morning so it might be sloppy after the B races.

I screwed up. I knew that the NC men were there and missed the fact that the women were not. I also missed Adva Cohen of New Mexico. I'll repost.

Women Top 10 teams revised

1 NC State

2 BYU

3 New Mexico

4 Oklahoma State

5 Minnesota

6 Washington

7 Notre Dame

8 Stanford

9 Michigan State

10 Providence

Women Top 20 individuals (top 20 done to show some of the runners that FastTuohy mentioned)

1 Whittni Orton - BYU

2 Taylor Roe - Oklahoma State

3 Bethany Hasz Minnesota

4 Hannah Steelman NC State

5 Zofia Dudek Stanford

6 Katelyn Tuohy - NC State

7 Jenna Magness - Michigan State

8 Kelsey Chmiel - NC State

9 Adva Cohen - New Mexico

10 Haley Herberg - Washington

11 Molly Born - Oklahoma State

12 Cailie Logue - Iowa State

13 Amanda Vestri - Syracuse

14 Alison Pray - Southern Utah

15 Amelia Mazza-Downie - New Mexico

16 Anna Pataki - Portland

17 Lexy Halladay - BYU

18 Maddy Denner - Notre Dame

19 Sarah LaTour- NC State

20 Aubrey Frentheway - BYU

I don't know how I missed the fact that this is a #1 vs #2 vs #3 battle!! I believe those are hands down the best three teams in the nation. Very exciting to have them actually line up and not dodge each other! Someone get us a free stream of this race!!

Orton wins it wrote:

FastTuohy wrote:

Are the above predictions for Nuttycombe? North Carolina will be in Florida so no Brown, not that I would have placed her quite that high anyway. Stefanie Parsons of New Mexico, Julia Heymach of Stanford and Alison Pray of Southern Utah should be near the top, and quite possibly Amanda Vestri of Syracuse as well. Maybe this will be the week some of the Washington ladies show up as well. I am curious how fit Dudek of Stanford is at this time.

Latest forecast says good chance of rain Friday morning so it might be sloppy after the B races.

I screwed up. I knew that the NC men were there and missed the fact that the women were not. I also missed Adva Cohen of New Mexico. I'll repost.

No worries, team wise I think I would put Stanford higher up if Dudek can even be top 20. ND hasn't really showed much so far, but maybe this week. I do think WA is better than they have showed so far.

Dudek was only a few seconds ahead of her teammates so if she is that high on the list I would expect a couple of her teammates to be right there with her and for Stanford to really be having a good showing. Chmiel looked pretty good two weeks ago so she could definitely be right with the leaders....

Ezrun wrote:

Dudek was only a few seconds ahead of her teammates so if she is that high on the list I would expect a couple of her teammates to be right there with her and for Stanford to really be having a good showing. Chmiel looked pretty good two weeks ago so she could definitely be right with the leaders....

You are right, but my take from that race was it was probably a very easy course, so a time of 20:50 ish was nothing to write home about.

I don’t think Orton is running this weekend. According to pre-race article on byucougars.com she isn't mentioned as one of the runners slated to race.

On Instagram it looked liked Orton and Wayment were doing a paced hard track workout on Monday.

Orton wins it wrote:

wannabepro25 wrote:

Teare in 6th? You’re disrespecting a 13:12 guy

The sport is cross country and the fact that he will probably be holding hands with Everet for part of the race will slow him down.

LOL ^

Wow……Stanford men have 4 people that are not freshmen entered.

Sounds like a wily veteran move befitting their decades of experience. Don't show your hand to the competition. :)

Doesn’t matter if Orton runs or not….she could get the 1 stick and BYU would lose to the Wolfpack. Everyone seems to forget that BYU was at their best last year. Their whole team that won was 100% dedicated to CC and CC alone. Taylor had two separate groups. NC State was training and racing an indoor track season and CC, and their top runners ran indoor Nationals right before CC Nationals. Plus the PAck was beat up and injured, except for Steelman and Chmiel. This Friday we will see what a focused Wolfpack would have looked like last year if CC and Indoor was not a week apart. I expect the Pack to win by at least 20. First 5 in the top 25