Showing Albertson's strategy was a great one, Jon Gault tells me that the men's winner Benson Kipruto said he had no idea CJ Albertson was in front until they caught him.
Showing Albertson's strategy was a great one, Jon Gault tells me that the men's winner Benson Kipruto said he had no idea CJ Albertson was in front until they caught him.
The counter-argument is that the pack was so unconcerned about catching Albertson that they didn't even bother talking about him.
That said, I'm all for high-risk, high-reward approaches like CJ's. Much better than an anonymous top-10 finish. And I'm really impressed that he finished pretty strong- he must've backed off before getting caught once he decided the jig was up. Which was a good tactical choice.
If I were in his position I wouldn't have backed off and took it all the way to the finish line. That was probably his only shot at greatness and he gave it away by being mentally weak. Sad.
Well, yea. Nobody knows who CJ Albertson is. I bet nobody on the elite field even knew someone with that name started the race.
Would have been cool if he won and I was hoping he would hang on. Oh well though.
How can professional runners be so unaware of what's going on in their race? That's really impressive, and not in a good way.
In cycling they have headphones and their team directors constantly communicating with each other. There isn’t anything like that with running. They could have confused the lead truck and helicopter further up with following the wheelchair race. I don’t want marathon running turning into cycling but the chase pack camera crew should tell them where they are in relation to the leader; This shouldn’t be a mystery.
How hard is it to see that someone's gone ahead and not come back to the pack?
brien evans wrote:
If I were in his position I wouldn't have backed off and took it all the way to the finish line. That was probably his only shot at greatness and he gave it away by being mentally weak. Sad.
Unless he's a liar, you have completely misunderstood his race plan. He claims he wansn't "going for it" and he didn't "back off." He was simply following his plan, which he designed to take advantage of his strength -- going fast downhill. Since Boston starts out downhill, he went out fast. He knew the pack would eat into his lead once they got to the flats and hills. His hope was they wouldn't eat it all up.
You should listen to the interview. He's smart and realistic.
zxcvxcvz wrote:
How hard is it to see that someone's gone ahead and not come back to the pack?
IT is possible.
Catherine Nyambura said she had no idea that Domescu ( Ithink that is her name) the Romanian was ahead in the Olympics until very late in the game.
The man took off at the gun and perhaps he never saw him . I'd imagine that the pack was talking about him in both Amharic and Kiswahili but who knows? We'll never know.
I don't know, but imagine Annemiek van Vleuten might have a few thoughts on the matter.
bricro wrote:
The counter-argument is that the pack was so unconcerned about catching Albertson that they didn't even bother talking about him.
That said, I'm all for high-risk, high-reward approaches like CJ's. Much better than an anonymous top-10 finish. And I'm really impressed that he finished pretty strong- he must've backed off before getting caught once he decided the jig was up. Which was a good tactical choice.
Albertson did well. Let's not forget he did all that to show the letsrun crowd that ultrarunners can keep up with the fast boys.
So says me wrote:
In cycling they have headphones and their team directors constantly communicating with each other. There isn’t anything like that with running. They could have confused the lead truck and helicopter further up with following the wheelchair race. I don’t want marathon running turning into cycling but the chase pack camera crew should tell them where they are in relation to the leader; This shouldn’t be a mystery.
Didn't Colin Bennie say that that officials told the lead group how far ahead CJ was?
Most of the lead was just the other guys running slow. If the leader ran an even pace, the lead would have been half as big.
The real question is if this pacing cost him like 10-35k. Going out 30-60s slower might have given him a 65/66 instead of that 64/68.
me too. if i was in his position i would just keep running harder. no such thing as being tired. win every race ever. be great
wejo wrote:
Showing Albertson's strategy was a great one, Jon Gault tells me that the men's winner Benson Kipruto said he had no idea CJ Albertson was in front until they caught him.
Strategy was good, execution was a little bit off. Even with his strengths and weaknesses as they are, if he'd taken the downhills just a little easier he would've been able to close the last 8K faster as there are some downhill/flat stretches for him to fly on. He was never keeping up with the top 3's crazy fast 5K segments in there but maybe in front of Bennie with better-managed energy.
So says me wrote:
In cycling they have headphones and their team directors constantly communicating with each other. There isn’t anything like that with running. They could have confused the lead truck and helicopter further up with following the wheelchair race. I don’t want marathon running turning into cycling but the chase pack camera crew should tell them where they are in relation to the leader; This shouldn’t be a mystery.
Having said that, the womens race at the olympics was one by a maverick that no one knew that she was in front.
The last two days of watching the marathons. Was very exciting because of the unpredictable gutsy moves during the first halfs. I watched the post commentaries and Kara Goucher was asking what is qualifying times for her age group. Is there any a chance she will run a Boston in April or a major next year?
Did he not think it might be the guy that went straight into the lead from the gun?! Of course he did!
Ackley wrote:
So says me wrote:
In cycling they have headphones and their team directors constantly communicating with each other. There isn’t anything like that with running. They could have confused the lead truck and helicopter further up with following the wheelchair race. I don’t want marathon running turning into cycling but the chase pack camera crew should tell them where they are in relation to the leader; This shouldn’t be a mystery.
Didn't Colin Bennie say that that officials told the lead group how far ahead CJ was?
You are assuming Benson Kipruto's English is 100%.
Unbelievable at this level…not knowing
No one in pack said anything?
Press truck?
Aid stations?
Coaches in crowd?
On the truck?
Cops?
Can’t believe no one tried to tell him them.
Esp in Boston at this level