Pretty incredible for someone whose DOB is January 22, 2004.
What's the age 17 US record for 1500 and 5000?
Anyone know?
He's already way faster than the US HS record for 5000 (Rupp 13:37.91) and onlyi behind Kessler on the 1500 list but both Rupp and Kessler were 18.
https://japanrunningnews.blogspot.com/2021/10/sato-adds-5000-m-high-school-and-u18.html
Quite impressive. Kicked it down on that last lap. He is taller, with a longer and more powerful stride than most Japanese runners.
Great running but maybe more impressive coaching. Now let's hope they don't turn him into a marathoner by 20!
Nico Young ran 13:50.55 at age 17 in 2020 a month before his 18th birthday, i think that's the US age-17 record. Everyone ahead of him on the high school all-time list was older (Rupp 13:37 age 18, Lindgren 13:44 age 18 assuming the 5K was run after March 9th, Ritz 13:44 age 18).
Age group records apply to birth year. Young was an 18 year old that year. This guy turns 18 next year.
Measurer of everything wrote:
Age group records apply to birth year. Young was an 18 year old that year. This guy turns 18 next year.
that's true for junior records (U20) and youth records (U18) but not single-age records IIRC. see the ARRS single-age record list, Aidan Puffer was less than a week away from his 12th birthday in May but his 5K still stands as the age-11 record.
https://arrs.run/SA_O5K.htmWhat organization is it that maintains and recognizes those records?
What's crazy about the list of age group records is when I look at the men's 5000 and see a 16 year old (Abraham Cherkos (ETH) ) at 12:54 .19and a 17-year old (Isaiah Koech, KEN) at 12:54.18, my first instinct is to think "A list of the best age cheats and/or dopers" in history.
Then I get to age 18 and see Eliud Kipchoge.
So they can't all be age cheats or at least big time age cheats as Kipchoge just won Olympic gold at age 36.
Whatever happened to Koech. I'd love to see a profile on him. How can he be that good but now at 27 not be heard from. What cause that quick fall?
Whether it was money, drugs, injury, age cheating, etc? It would be a fascinating read.
Measurer of everything wrote:
What organization is it that maintains and recognizes those records?
ARRS maintains them at that link, i'm just trying to answer rojo's question in the OP.
FWIW the IAAF doesn't have any 5000m performances by a U18 American under 13:55:
https://www.worldathletics.org/records/all-time-toplists/middle-long/5000-metres/outdoor/men/u18?regionType=countries®ion=usathe American age-17 record for 1500 is still 3:39.0 by Jim Ryun, 17 years 60 days old, which is also the U18 record b/c he didn't turn 18 until the next year. The two faster than him (Webb 3:38.26+ 18, Kessler 3:34.36 18) were both older.
rojo wrote:
Whatever happened to Koech. I'd love to see a profile on him. How can he be that good but now at 27 not be heard from. What cause that quick fall?
Whether it was money, drugs, injury, age cheating, etc? It would be a fascinating read.
Whatever happened to wejo? What caused that quick fall?
Was it the trust fund, drugs, being humiliated by bobblehead, chronic unemployment? It would be a dismal read.
Japan has their Hobbs Kessler.
Of course it is very impressive times for the 5000m and the 1500m!
Haile Gebrselassie and Steve Cram who were both very good U20 runners ran 13.36 and 3:40 at 19 and 17 respectively.
But the Norwegian 1500m gold medalist ran 13.17 (at the European Championships) and 3:31 (in Monaco) at 17 in 2018.
coahc wrote:
Great running but maybe more impressive coaching. Now let's hope they don't turn him into a marathoner by 20!
He will become a half marathon specialist in 14 months.
ofa lon teh wrote:
rojo wrote:
Whatever happened to Koech. I'd love to see a profile on him. How can he be that good but now at 27 not be heard from. What cause that quick fall?
Whether it was money, drugs, injury, age cheating, etc? It would be a fascinating read.
Whatever happened to wejo? What caused that quick fall?
Was it the trust fund, drugs, being humiliated by bobblehead, chronic unemployment? It would be a dismal read.
What a sad person you are!
rojo wrote:
What's crazy about the list of age group records is when I look at the men's 5000 and see a 16 year old (Abraham Cherkos (ETH) ) at 12:54 .19and a 17-year old (Isaiah Koech, KEN) at 12:54.18, my first instinct is to think "A list of the best age cheats and/or dopers" in history.
Then I get to age 18 and see Eliud Kipchoge.
So they can't all be age cheats or at least big time age cheats as Kipchoge just won Olympic gold at age 36.
Whatever happened to Koech. I'd love to see a profile on him. How can he be that good but now at 27 not be heard from. What cause that quick fall?
Whether it was money, drugs, injury, age cheating, etc? It would be a fascinating read.
Rojo: when Kenyans reach their objective and it is mostly a financial objective they are then much less motivated to run and continue training. This may have been the case for Koech.
Don't worry, Japanese coaches will ship him to the marathon and ruin him.
Cris Derek ran 13:55 at age 17 in an All-HS meet and then got down into the 13:20s a year later. Did he ever break 13:10? Ritz went from 13:44 down to 13:20s but he was 18/19. German didn't have an age 17 5K, but got down to low 13:20s at age 18.
Derrick has a PB of 13:08.
Anybody know what his training looks like?
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