Mileage seems like a big thing for 1500m running (jakob, mcsweyn, cheruiyot etc run all 100miles or more a week), but are there also top elite guys who runn less?
Mileage seems like a big thing for 1500m running (jakob, mcsweyn, cheruiyot etc run all 100miles or more a week), but are there also top elite guys who runn less?
There was a claim here recently that Elliot Giles (3;33) runs 15 miles a week and cross trains with an elliptical bike.
Of course there are men capable of racing sub-3:35 1500m who log less than 60 miles per week. Numerous 800m men. Maybe 35 to 40 year ago, I would have considered 3:34.99 elite. Not today.
v33vsjs8 wrote:
There was a claim here recently that Elliot Giles (3;33) runs 15 miles a week and cross trains with an elliptical bike.
He said it himself on a recent episode of the Sunday Plodcast. I think it was more like 20 miles. He did say that he makes sure his heart rate is getting high enough when he uses the eliptigo so it's probably as aerobically effective as running without the muscle strain
Gjert wrote:
Mileage seems like a big thing for 1500m running (jakob, mcsweyn, cheruiyot etc run all 100miles or more a week), but are there also top elite guys who runn less?
Gjert said in a Norwegian running forum a couple of years ago that he was wary of elite 1500m guys who ran less than 150km a week over long periods of the year. He said he couldn't understand how thos guys could build the aerobic capacity to run close to 3:30 without doing that kind of mileage.
Obviously cross-training can replace some of that but there is still a need for a sustained high volume.
Yeah thats true sub 3’33 is maybe a better standard to use
Jakob could easily run 3:32 on 50 MPW.
Josh Kerr has said many times he averages around 60MPW, at altitude albeit
Doesn't Kerr primarily train in Seattle?
Lagat would peak around 60 miles during the base phase and run 40s-50s the rest of the year when he ran 3:26. He only got up higher than that when he started running the 5k (and even then peaked around 70 mpw).
Justyn Knight runs 35 mpw still? Granted he’s a 5000m guy.
Runner10287 wrote:
Justyn Knight runs 35 mpw still? Granted he’s a 5000m guy.
Thought I heard somewhere that he's closer to 70mpw these days but could be wrong
Brazier ran 3:35 doing 30-35, and also made a post about it saying something along the lines of “new 1500m PR of 3:35, the 35 mile weeks are paying off”
Lmao.
Imagine being THAT talented
Jim Spivey did 3:31 on less average than 60 mpw.
CopperRunner wrote:
Brazier ran 3:35 doing 30-35, and also made a post about it saying something along the lines of “new 1500m PR of 3:35, the 35 mile weeks are paying off”
Lmao.
Imagine being THAT talented
Obviously, the formula to calculate your 1500m time is 3:00 + MPW in seconds.
toomanyspikes wrote:
Runner10287 wrote:
Justyn Knight runs 35 mpw still? Granted he’s a 5000m guy.
Thought I heard somewhere that he's closer to 70mpw these days but could be wrong
I think 70 mpw is correct.
Hocker 3:31 on 60ish miles per week.
OP - Where did you see that Cheruiyot runs 100+ miles per week? Same with McSweyn? The articles I have read said they are in the 80s (Cheruiyot) and 90s (McSweyn) respectively.
I believe there are plenty elite athletes than run somewhere between 50-60 mi per week. It makes sense why should you run 100 mi if your event is about 3:30 min?
Middle distance is about quality work outs not mileage. Probably Marathon training is the single distance you must run lots of miles.
abcrunning wrote:
I believe there are plenty elite athletes than run somewhere between 50-60 mi per week. It makes sense why should you run 100 mi if your event is about 3:30 min?
Middle distance is about quality work outs not mileage. Probably Marathon training is the single distance you must run lots of miles.
Let's hope Jakob picks up on this, ditches the pointless excess miles, and then maybe he'll get somewhere.
As others have said I think you are high on your estimates here. Plenty of milers have found success running 60-80 mpw. In fact I would call that moderate mileage for 1500m runners. If Cheruiyot runs over 80mpw out of base training I’d be shocked, his longest runs are 10 miles then.
Old greatness wrote:
Jim Spivey did 3:31 on less average than 60 mpw.
Makhlourif was around 60mpw. The numbers I have seen on Kiprop are About 70. Murphy runs 60/70. Bazier almost ran 335 off like 35mpw. I am guessin a lot of the 800m/1500m guys fall into this rough range of miles. But these days there are a lot more 1500m/5000m guys than 800/1500m