2 mile time

Who knows if it's even a 2 mile, but sub 12 for an 8th grader sounds good

Sub 10 is more than good.

Yeah, sub 12 sounds about right.

well we will see if it’s 2 mile or not , I think it will take something in the 10’s to win it imo. But i could be way off.

i think i was running just under 13 minutes in 8th grade XC and never placed outside of the top 5 at a meet. course had 2 short hills. i think 12 minutes would probably have won any of these meets.

xc dad wrote:

what’s considered good for 8 th grade boys 2 mile? first meet today with close to 200 runners. I understand ever course is different. sub 10?

Not sure if you are joking or not, but...

1) The others are right...sub 12 is elite for junior high school CC 2 mile times.

2) I can't tell you the number of guys I have seen run under 12, and then even under 11 in some cases who were then bad runners in high school or just kind of a little bit good. Being good in middle school/junior high is usually the result of one of these things or both - A) Early physical maturation; B) Training a lot more than the typical junior high school kid. Once high school comes around, most kids catch up physically, and then MANY more are also training a decent amount

3) I watched my daughter and my son run in middle school, high school, and college, and of all the high achieving middle school CC kids I saw on both the girls and the boys sides, there is only one runner I can think of who I saw run here in Ohio who was a stud in middle school who then continued that into high school and college...BYU's Lucas Bons. So many others, both boys and girls who were destroying CC fields in middle school who got swallowed up by others in high school and beyond.

I never understood the concept that gets said on here over and over that a fast middle schooler will end up not fast in high school or beyond, sure the gains will slow each year but with good coaching gains should continue into jr year before now your looking for a second or two here and there. And i wasn’t kidding. This must be the only sport where you hope a kid is slow until 9th grade where magically he will now become fast. Or maybe it’s just this forum.

My freshman year I ran a 10:22, two mile xc race. It was the course record for almost 20 years (NJ).

winner likely to be closer to 12 than 10 would be my guess.

any wagers? i’ll report back after meet.

Depends on the course and state. Definitely not sub 10. More likely between 12-13 minutes. Some of the kids will be lucky to finish in 30 minutes. My daughters ran their first meet of the year and were both in the top 5 (top two in their grade level) and were in the 14s, but it was a tough course at altitude and was likely a little long (they both have run about 6 flat for the mile on the track). There were only 3 boys in the 13-14 division at USATF Nationals in the 3000 that ran under 10 minutes. The winner was 9:21, which converts to 10:05. So your expectations are pretty unrealistic (unless it's a short course).

xc dad wrote:

I never understood the concept that gets said on here over and over that a fast middle schooler will end up not fast in high school or beyond, sure the gains will slow each year but with good coaching gains should continue into jr year before now your looking for a second or two here and there. And i wasn’t kidding. This must be the only sport where you hope a kid is slow until 9th grade where magically he will now become fast. Or maybe it’s just this forum.

From what I've seen, kids that excel at running very young tend to be pushed by their parents and are much more likely to burn out. They also have a higher tendancy to experience plaguing injuries later on from running too much on a still developing musculoskeletal system.

August West wrote:

xc dad wrote:

I never understood the concept that gets said on here over and over that a fast middle schooler will end up not fast in high school or beyond, sure the gains will slow each year but with good coaching gains should continue into jr year before now your looking for a second or two here and there. And i wasn’t kidding. This must be the only sport where you hope a kid is slow until 9th grade where magically he will now become fast. Or maybe it’s just this forum.

From what I've seen, kids that excel at running very young tend to be pushed by their parents and are much more likely to burn out. They also have a higher tendancy to experience plaguing injuries later on from running too much on a still developing musculoskeletal system.

Depends on if the kids are running fast based on talent or based on mileage. It is easy for a coach or parent to push mileage on a kid that is growing. Getting short term gains at a long term cost. It is another thing if an athletic kid is running 10 miles a week and still running fast. I have seen plenty of middle school kids get quick gains under a coach that runs them 30-40 miles per week only to plateau or disappear later on.

10:05 2.01 for distance, pretty warm and humid though.

Wow! Sounds like a fantastic run.