Let's be frank here: you're not "racing" at 8:00 pace.

F you, sham.

I am proud if my 3:30 marathon RACE!

i had a girlfriend who i never want to see again. and i helped her for one season to train for a 5k. she was around 45. guessing by times she would hit for 100, 200, and maybe 400 meter i was confused to see her doing 10 min pace for some of her training runs. and when she was doing slower than 7;30 pace i felt she was just soul-less. unable to try. but i got her a heart rate monitor. and then i had to admit. when she broke 8;00 pace by just a little on a hilly 5k. she was very certainly racing. i think if she had put a few more consistent years of training in she would have gotten decent drops. but now days she is clearly racing to hit 10 min pace. so i really never want to see her again. but. for sure. when she did about 7;50 pace for that 5k, that was a race. and the heart rate and facial expressions prove it. so be careful. because if you stop training for a while. and try to get back up... haha. probably be a long time before 7 min pace is a race for you. but it can happen.

Sham 69 wrote:

This is what we call a jog. Unless you are very old or handicapped, don't bother racing at this pace. Instead, do 200 and 400 repeats until your race pace is in the lower 7s. You need to learn to SPRINT first, because 8:00 pace is jogging.

The old fogies on here struggling to break 20min need more than that.

Ah...a young one who thinks they are going to defy the laws of aging.

Just wait until your HR is 160 at 8 min pace. It will happen if you stick it out that long.

Anyone participating in a race and running as hard as they can is racing.

moanswers wrote:

Ah...a young one who thinks they are going to defy the laws of aging.

Dude. Did you miss the part where I said "very old or handicapped"?

I’m 55 and run 6 days a week, 8 hours a week

8 min is my tempo pace so I guess I’m ok in your book?

8:00 is a respectable pace if you lead a full life ie one that is not centered on running hundreds and hundreds of miles to nowhere.

Wait until you get into your 50s, Pipsqueak.

Sham 69 wrote:

This is what we call a jog. Unless you are very old or handicapped, don't bother racing at this pace. Instead, do 200 and 400 repeats until your race pace is in the lower 7s. You need to learn to SPRINT first, because 8:00 pace is jogging.

Let's be frank here. If your name is not Sham 69, you're not trolling

I am Frank and if you’re running 6 minute pace you are not racing. I am not sure what you are doing, but it ain’t racing.

Sham could you run 10 miles at sub 8:00 pace?

Don’t old people progressively see their ability to raise their heart rate diminish as they are?

moanswers wrote:

Ah...a young one who thinks they are going to defy the laws of aging.

Just wait until your HR is 160 at 8 min pace. It will happen if you stick it out that long.

He won't stick around for long.

Sham 69 wrote:

This is what we call a jog. Unless you are very old or handicapped, don't bother racing at this pace. Instead, do 200 and 400 repeats until your race pace is in the lower 7s. You need to learn to SPRINT first, because 8:00 pace is jogging.

Did anyone ask?

Lets be frank here: you're not trolling posting anything less than five indefensible statements per day.

CopperRunner wrote:

Sham could you run 10 miles at sub 8:00 pace?

Maybe, but I can definitely race 2 miles at 4:50 pace right now. That is 9:40 for two miles.

Sham 69 wrote:

CopperRunner wrote:

Sham could you run 10 miles at sub 8:00 pace?

Maybe, but I can definitely race 2 miles at 4:50 pace right now. That is 9:40 for two miles.

If your answer is maybe, I highly doubt you are breaking 10:00 for 2 miles

mr jim wrote:

Sham 69 wrote:

Maybe, but I can definitely race 2 miles at 4:50 pace right now. That is 9:40 for two miles.

If your answer is maybe, I highly doubt you are breaking 10:00 for 2 miles

Sham is not even a runner anymore. He is a middle aged troll. He knows this.