Wow: World jr 800 champ Emmanuel Wanyonyi (1:43.76) dropped out of school to work for between $1.82 and $9.09 per month

This is why Kenyans will always train harder than Americans. In the US the alternative is an ok life whereas in Kenya its poverty.

Class 3 in Kenya is normally the third year of elementary school and most students in that year are 8 to 9 years old but they also admit people who are much older if they lack education. It’s at this stage that they are learning to read and write properly and perhaps this much older student needed to go back to basics. That’s why you see the funny scenario in Kenya of sometimes adult looking students sitting in a class with elementary students because there’s no other option.

There really is something about being poor that makes a difference. Where I am and the athletes that I coach are all from pretty good backgrounds but gem is that their coach isn't. Sometimes a coaches grit can rub off on the athletes they work with.

This why I think that those living hard live are the most motivated.

There are a lot of examples like this in the past.

Kvothe wrote:

This is why Kenyans will always train harder than Americans. In the US the alternative is an ok life whereas in Kenya its poverty.

Coming from a French guy, anyone not in the high middle-class living in the US is living a very miserable lifestyle. Not similar to Africa or Asia. But compared to Western Europe, you guys are sad.

No one in Europe has to fill bankruptcy to pay for a surgery. No one in Europe has to work 2-3 jobs just to pay rent. No one in Europe has to live in a trailer park.

When is LetsRun gonna hire me full time at the same pay rate?

Kvothe wrote:

This is why Kenyans will always train harder than Americans. In the US the alternative is an ok life whereas in Kenya its poverty.

And many would say why they are much more likely to dope. In America, many of the track pros make less than a normal working adult. In Kenya, it's the opposite.

rojo wrote:

Kvothe wrote:

This is why Kenyans will always train harder than Americans. In the US the alternative is an ok life whereas in Kenya its poverty.

And many would say why they are much more likely to dope. In America, many of the track pros make less than a normal working adult. In Kenya, it's the opposite.

This is a truly pathetic response. After all the mental gymnastics to somehow say Shelby Houlihan was unjustly punished you now are only to willing to attach a suspicion of doping to some dirt poor African kid. Welcome to the world of LetsRun Emmanuel. Just a few hours after the first thread was opened on you, one of the co-founders casually drops the words " likely to dope".

And that is infinitely more work than rojo and his twin have ever done in their couch napping lives.

rojo wrote:

Kvothe wrote:

This is why Kenyans will always train harder than Americans. In the US the alternative is an ok life whereas in Kenya its poverty.

And many would say why they are much more likely to dope. In America, many of the track pros make less than a normal working adult. In Kenya, it's the opposite.

Moronic response. You bring nothing to the table.

BlackMoH wrote:

Kvothe wrote:

This is why Kenyans will always train harder than Americans. In the US the alternative is an ok life whereas in Kenya its poverty.

Coming from a French guy, anyone not in the high middle-class living in the US is living a very miserable lifestyle. Not similar to Africa or Asia. But compared to Western Europe, you guys are sad.

No one in Europe has to fill bankruptcy to pay for a surgery. No one in Europe has to work 2-3 jobs just to pay rent. No one in Europe has to live in a trailer park.

Nobody will listen to you. We are extremely addicted to the notion that our rich are allowed to be as rich as they want, we kind of live vicariously through it in fact. It really is wonderful to see a few of our wealthy elites showing us exactly what it means to live the American dream, truly inspiring.

rojo wrote:

Kvothe wrote:

This is why Kenyans will always train harder than Americans. In the US the alternative is an ok life whereas in Kenya its poverty.

And many would say why they are much more likely to dope. In America, many of the track pros make less than a normal working adult. In Kenya, it's the opposite.

^^^just human nature. It cracks me up how many people want to mythologize the poor here as if that somehow makes them virtuous.

rojo wrote:

Kvothe wrote:

This is why Kenyans will always train harder than Americans. In the US the alternative is an ok life whereas in Kenya its poverty.

And many would say why they are much more likely to dope. In America, many of the track pros make less than a normal working adult. In Kenya, it's the opposite.

This classic 'ugly Americanism' is why I'll have no part in borderline racist threads like this. That someone with a supposedly decent education can believe poverty is incompatible with integrity not only betrays the deficiencies of American culture and its education system but is also just too disgusting for me to contemplate.

For the record: the poor are not less honest than the privileged. I'll point you towards every major economic crime and depression/recession in the last hundred years as exhibit A.

Rojo we don’t know who this is. How are we supposed to know whether he/she is intersex unless you put it in the title?

rojo wrote:

Kvothe wrote:

This is why Kenyans will always train harder than Americans. In the US the alternative is an ok life whereas in Kenya its poverty.

And many would say why they are much more likely to dope. In America, many of the track pros make less than a normal working adult. In Kenya, it's the opposite.

LMAO. And many would say you're ignorant.

rojo wrote:

And many would say why they are much more likely to dope. In America, many of the track pros make less than a normal working adult. In Kenya, it's the opposite.

Why do you have to go down that path? They have much more to lose if they are caught cheating. They have zero chance of making it in life after that. Just look at the lives of those who have been busted.

I'd say American athletes have LESS to lose, and are therefore more likely to cheat because they can always find another want to pay their bills and have a good life. Look at past US cheaters. Even famous ones like Lance Armstrong. S. Houlihan will do just fine.