griles17 wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
Of course - you read it in an internet article. Like voter fraud and Covid denial.
Nope. The voter fraud, covid-denier crowd is also the Shelby-is-a-doper crowd. Sorry.
The "Shelby is a doper crowd" includes CAS, WADA and AIU. You are embarrassingly stupid.
Ok geniuses, when will the innocent runner next compete?
rojo wrote:
I greatly enjoyed reading the report by Twoggle3.
That being said, I've been trying to find out who wrote it as I have a few questions. If the person really wants to help Shelby, they need to go public. Hell, just email me anonymously. I can keep things off the record.
robert@letsrun.com
You enjoyed it because it confirms your priors. Your while approach to this case is a textbook example of motivated reasoning. Twoggle will never surface because then he'll have to face questions about his credentials and capacity to present expert analysis. He's an internet expert with no background in any scientific field and I feel sorry for Houlihan that she only has this straw to clutch at.
There is nothing, absolutely nothing, in Twoggle's post that wasn't directly addressed, and dismissed, in the CAS decision. The experts disagree with the internet white knight
rojo wrote:
I greatly enjoyed reading the report by Twoggle3.
That being said, I've been trying to find out who wrote it as I have a few questions. If the person really wants to help Shelby, they need to go public. Hell, just email me anonymously. I can keep things off the record.
robert@letsrun.com
These are the people that read stuff on line and next thing you know they are taking a horse dewormer.
High hopes wrote:
rojo wrote:
I greatly enjoyed reading the report by Twoggle3.
That being said, I've been trying to find out who wrote it as I have a few questions. If the person really wants to help Shelby, they need to go public. Hell, just email me anonymously. I can keep things off the record.
robert@letsrun.comYou enjoyed it because it confirms your priors. Your while approach to this case is a textbook example of motivated reasoning. Twoggle will never surface because then he'll have to face questions about his credentials and capacity to present expert analysis. He's an internet expert with no background in any scientific field and I feel sorry for Houlihan that she only has this straw to clutch at.
There is nothing, absolutely nothing, in Twoggle's post that wasn't directly addressed, and dismissed, in the CAS decision. The experts disagree with the internet white knight
Exactly, clutching at straws for a defence and then trying to prove it’s a good defence.
The whole team like many other athletes are micro dosing because it avoids the marketers which would normally should up in tests, if you get your supplements slightly wrong and tested too show you get hit with the ban hammer.
What we need is a device to do real time blood testing continuously of competitive athletes to show what they are all taking and we will realise is some of the household athletes should never be competing taking ban substances are a low level, others being in the very grey area of doping bit substances not banned and very few which are truely clean.
Problem is if Shelby is dirty then the likelihood is the whole team is which is the more important misinformation and misdirection campaign which is currently being waged.
good kidd madd city wrote:
These are the people that read stuff on line and next thing you know they are taking a horse dewormer.
LOL - sounds like you browsed through Twoggle's Covid comments here on letsrun.
its only 5k wrote:
Problem is if Shelby is dirty then the likelihood is the whole team is which is the more important misinformation and misdirection campaign which is currently being waged.
Yes. All part of the propaganda to lower the damage to BTC's reputation. And, it's working quite well, if you look at letsrun's and womanrunning's articles. It's not so well working internationally, and on runnersworld.
twoggle is def shelby or some insider, look at those twitter replies lmao shelby needs to just go away for 4 years
Did nobody pick up on this?
runningfued wrote:
Did nobody pick up on this?
https://ibb.co/yyBByH6
They're, like, really bad at mounting a defense for themselves. Hopefully they fired their legal/PR teams.
This gets better and better. A doping anti-vaxxer?
sepreh wrote:
What makes it clear she is guilty is the super-ridiculous quasi-racist defense she put forth.
Those who cry "racist" are usually found to be the real racists.
`` wrote:
CAS proved she had a non-naturally-occurring substance in her system, and then proved it couldn't have gotten there in the only legitimate way Shelby could think of. What more could they have done?
The problem is not a tainted athlete, nor is it a tainted burrito.
The problem here is a tainted lab director.
I don't know if Shelby is guilty or innocent. By reading all of the accounts, it's obvious that the process if flawed. Without going into all of the specifics, one point is not debatable. How do you give any credibility to an "analyst" who was found giving false testimony which lead to the overturning of an athlete's suspension. That's simply corrupt, and makes about much sense of putting new shoes on a dead horse.
I don't know about voter fraud, but my name is on three three separate property deeds as owner and/or co-owner. I received THREE mail-in ballots. Can you offer a rational explanation?
The Team Shelby crowd remind me of the folks who stuck with Lance Armstrong all the way til he admitted being a doper on Oprah, but at least the Armstrong defenders could always point to the fact that he had never failed a drug test. Team Shelby doesn't even have that, they're literally hanging their hat on Shelby's denials and a blog post by some anonymous clown named "twoggle".
It's completely delusional.
Armstronglivs wrote:
Another thread that shows Letsrun will give currency to every stupid alternative theory going. "Shelby is innocent" is up there with "voter fraud" and "Covid is just the flu" - and is just as vacuous. Like those who believe it.
ha ha it's trumps fault
this is it wrote:
The Team Shelby crowd remind me of the folks who stuck with Lance Armstrong all the way til he admitted being a doper on Oprah, but at least the Armstrong defenders could always point to the fact that he had never failed a drug test. Team Shelby doesn't even have that, they're literally hanging their hat on Shelby's denials and a blog post by some anonymous clown named "twoggle".
It's completely delusional.
Who was defending Armstrong? There were about 10 witnesses lined up to testify against him and he was absolutely guilty. He is one of the most disliked American athletes in history and his interview with Oprah only made it worse.
Armstronglivs wrote:
griles17 wrote:
Nope. The voter fraud, covid-denier crowd is also the Shelby-is-a-doper crowd. Sorry.
The "Shelby is a doper crowd" includes CAS, WADA and AIU. You are embarrassingly stupid.
Coming from you? LOL
SDSU Aztec wrote:
this is it wrote:
The Team Shelby crowd remind me of the folks who stuck with Lance Armstrong all the way til he admitted being a doper on Oprah, but at least the Armstrong defenders could always point to the fact that he had never failed a drug test. Team Shelby doesn't even have that, they're literally hanging their hat on Shelby's denials and a blog post by some anonymous clown named "twoggle".
It's completely delusional.
Who was defending Armstrong? There were about 10 witnesses lined up to testify against him and he was absolutely guilty. He is one of the most disliked American athletes in history and his interview with Oprah only made it worse.
Lol. You must be very young.