2017 -> 2021
400h: 48.22 -> 45.94
400 flat: 44.87 -> ???
Some people look at this and assume it indicates Karsten can run well under 44 in the 400 flat, but I think theyre wrong.
A lot of that improvement in his 400mH time is improved technique, not just speed and speed endurance. Rai's probably faster than him, but Warholm is just the better hurdler.
What do you guys think Warholm can run?
44.00.
OozmaKappa wrote:
2017 -> 2021
400h: 48.22 -> 45.94
400 flat: 44.87 -> ???
Some people look at this and assume it indicates Karsten can run well under 44 in the 400 flat, but I think theyre wrong.
A lot of that improvement in his 400mH time is improved technique, not just speed and speed endurance. Rai's probably faster than him, but Warholm is just the better hurdler.
What do you guys think Warholm can run?
I agree. Most people don't seem to notice this with hurdles and claim big improvements are from doping, when it's really just a combination of technique and number of steps/managing those steps efficiently.
I'll be very generous and give him mid to high 43. Somewhat to appease those that for some reason think he breaks 43,
I've been saying this for a while rai 44.05 -44.20 warholm 44.15-44.30
quark wrote:
44.00.
Most people think he'll be over or under, so if he hits exactly that you're a winner!
I bring this up bc of the TRP video. Good channel, but sometimes he overhypes things that are just unrealistic. Like saying Warholm breaking 43 is a possibility.
I'd be surprised if Karsten could break 44 right now.
Definitely correct. He'll run slower than expected. For one thing, he's not a 45.94 guy. He ran 45.94 one time in optimum conditions in a race he had targeted for years.
Warholm and Femke Bol maximize their ability level in 400 hurdles by using those techniques described by Edwin Moses...using left leg lead every time and running on inside of lane line. The left leg lead in particular is a huge edge, if you watch the videos carefully. Not only is the angle around the bend already superior via the landing point but the trailing right leg comes across the barrier right to left, shifting your weight and further slingshotting you in the preferred direction. It's really glaring that the 400 hurdlers who lead with their right leg around a bend have that momentary pause where not only are they landing in the center of the lane as opposed to left side of lane, but their torso and momentum are facing forward instead of ideally angled left. Quite the waste. It basically requires one extra step to recover and maximize.
In total it makes Warholm's flat speed appear slightly greater than it is.