he has virtually no chance to unseat warholm. might as well move up. he could run 1:42 mid or faster in three years if he committed to it now
he has virtually no chance to unseat warholm. might as well move up. he could run 1:42 mid or faster in three years if he committed to it now
Rai has more upside in the hurdles, your saying he might be a good 800m runner. If he can continue to refine his hurdling technique and work on his endurance he can go well under 46.
1:47
paris2024hawk wrote:
Rai has more upside in the hurdles, your saying he might be a good 800m runner. If he can continue to refine his hurdling technique and work on his endurance he can go well under 46.
and still lose
Kiss Her wrote:
1:47
this is lunacy. if he comes through in 49 w no hurdles he would definitely be able to muster something much faster than a 58 for the second lap
1500/5Kfan wrote:
Kiss Her wrote:
1:47
this is lunacy. if he comes through in 49 w no hurdles he would definitely be able to muster something much faster than a 58 for the second lap
At his peak bolt was also capable of 1-20 for 800m
All he had to do was string some 10sec 100m together
10sec was slow for bolt
Jeremy Wariner
43.......1:53
Most true sprinters can't run the 800. Benjamin is a sprinter. 1:47 is very generous.
better to focus on open 4
nostradamuslives wrote:
better to focus on open 4
I agree. Kirani James is already past his prime, Gardiner is a tad older than Benjamin, WVN is 29 and will probably never be back in an Oly final after his injuries, so Rai's competition is Michael Norman in the open 400. He's never beaten Norman on the flat, but he's been close. If Norman doesn't regain his sub-44 form you never know.
1500/5Kfan wrote:
paris2024hawk wrote:
Rai has more upside in the hurdles, your saying he might be a good 800m runner. If he can continue to refine his hurdling technique and work on his endurance he can go well under 46.
and still lose
I think he will beat him eventually probably next year.
#2 in the world yet you infer he has no hope in beating #1? Move to an unknown event you have never done and think he will do well? Nope! Stay where you are. Work on your technique and training. Maybe explore the flat 400.
Keep working on it wrote:
#2 in the world yet you infer he has no hope in beating #1? Move to an unknown event you have never done and think he will do well? Nope! Stay where you are. Work on your technique and training. Maybe explore the flat 400.
Maybe get some Norwegian Nectar.
Give up an event where he is the second fastest runner ever to try an event where he may not make the US team?
Donavan Brazier didn't die, you know.
Murphy isn't gonna lay down.
And the 800 is the most unpredictable race there is.
Better to have your own lane and stick with the hurdles.
So he trades the 2nd best time in history in one event for like the 13th best in another.
yeah, dude who just ran faster than the old WR should switch events. This board's stupidity has reached a new height.
paris2024hawk wrote:
Rai has more upside in the hurdles, your saying he might be a good 800m runner. If he can continue to refine his hurdling technique and work on his endurance he can go well under 46.
You presume either/both go as fast as they did on that trampoline track in Tokyo again?
I would be more surprised if either run faster than they did on that day than if they never matched those times again. Just like the 2012 800m final, where I think only 1 of the competitors ever ran faster on any other track (before or after). The only way they do is if they run on an even faster track laid down for future global championships or the spikes continue to improve.
Keep working on it wrote:
#2 in the world yet you infer he has no hope in beating #1? Move to an unknown event you have never done and think he will do well? Nope! Stay where you are. Work on your technique and training. Maybe explore the flat 400.
Yep, though I think he should definitely explore the flat 400, since I think he could have medaled this year, and it shouldn’t be at all detrimental to his 400h performance.
Paul Cheerio wrote:
Jeremy Wariner
43.......1:53
In fairness, I don’t think this should be used as evidence of what a 43” 400 guy can run for 800, since he ran that 1:53.0 one-off in March of 2015, when he’d been a has-been for several years. It’s no proof he couldn’t have muscled through a 1:48 during his 2004-‘08 prime.
How about Michael Cherry running 1:54.17 when he was 17 years old? I wouldn’t be surprised if he and Benjamin could run 1:49.x currently, and 1:46.x with a (idiotic) shift in training.
i dont think so.he can beat warholm.
1500/5Kfan wrote:
he has virtually no chance to unseat warholm. might as well move up. he could run 1:42 mid or faster in three years if he committed to it now
Has there ever been a world class 800 runner that has run 10.03? Seems like he has too many fast-twitch muscles for the 800.
The World Champs 400/400H Double is difficult but not impossible. Day 3 you'd have to jog a 45 low 400m heat and then 7 hours later cruise a 47-mid 400H. You do get a full day of rest the next day and no overlaps otherwise.