Kariem Hussein, Swiss hurdles star, suspended 9 months for innocent mistake. No Tokyo.

Typo:” over the counter suites ”

Correct: “ Over the counter sweets”

Ghost1 isn't it a joke that so many banned substances are in normal everyday substances It really isn't fair I feel for him he's getting old as well what a shame

The punishment, one feels, is especially unwarranted because this man is 32 years old and by the time the next Olympics roll-around in 2024 he will be 35 at an age when most sprinters are on the downward trend by quite a few years. This guy should be allowed to compete in Tokyo. He made an innocent mistake.

400 hurdles career, below. He ran 48.47 as far back as 2014. For this reason, it might be very difficult for him to be at his best three years from now when he will reach the age of 35.

2021 48.84 Stadion Hard, Langenthal (SUI) 26 JUN 2021

2020 50.83 Stadio Comunale, Bellinzona (SUI) 26 SEP 2020

2019 49.21 Stadion Schützenmatte, Basel (SUI) 24 AUG 2019

2018 51.40 Suhaim bin Hamad Stadium, Doha (QAT) 04 MAY 2018

2017 48.45 Letzigrund, Zürich (SUI) 24 AUG 2017

2016 48.87 Olympisch Stadion, Amsterdam (NED) 07 JUL 2016

2015 48.45 Zug (SUI) 08 AUG 2015

2014 48.47 Le Grande Stade, Marrakesh (MAR) 13 SEP 2014

2013 49.78 Luzern (SUI) 27 JUL 2013

2012 49.61 Bern (SUI) 07 JUL 2012

2011 51.09 Basel (SUI) 06 AUG 2011

2010 51.64 Lugano (SUI) 16 JUL 2010

2009 52.33 Zürich (SUI) 02 AUG 2009

He even took it after his race so it has not helped him in any way shape or form. c'est une honte

Samuel Mahele Akili wrote:

Ghost1 isn't it a joke that so many banned substances are in normal everyday substances It really isn't fair I feel for him he's getting old as well what a shame

Absolutely, and this Swiss guy is as clean as a whistle and never had anything against him throughout a long career over a span of 10 years and more. What is he going to tell his kids and his grandchildren? That he was banned from the Olympics because he took some sweets? Sad if not outrageous.

It's your job to not violate WADA rules!

Kariem Hussein.

In Islam, people say that “ the Great One above, “ Allah, is he who decides everything and that it is destiny and in that regard Hussein the hurdler, a devout Muslim, has accepted the sanction in a very measured and reasonable way so kudos to him.

https://www.journaldujura.ch/sites/journaldujura.ch/files/styles/bt_article_showroom_landscape/public/ats/2021/07/20210723074015674-1627021116.jpg?itok=NjkzuORn

Vancomycin wrote:

It's your job to not violate WADA rules!

You are right, but a little bit of compassion would’ve gone a long way and taking into account the circumstances of this violation which appear to have been perfectly innocent with no intentions of cheating or wrongdoing.

The Olympics are being taken away from him and he will never get that back.

That is a life-changing event and the magnitude of this will have a negative impact on the rest of his life not to mention social disapproval by people who do not research the innocent cause of this ban.

WADA Rule 2.1

2.1 Presence of a Prohibited Substance or its

Metabolites or Markers in an Athlete’s Sample

2.1.1It is each Athlete’s personal duty to ensure

that no Prohibited Substance enters his or

her body. Athletes are responsible for any

Prohibited Substance or its Metabolites or

Markers found to be present in their Samples.

Accordingly, it is not necessary that intent, Fault,

negligence or knowing Use on the Athlete’s

part be demonstrated in order to establish an

anti-doping rule violation under Article 2.1

I've heard people say:

"If they only complied this wouldn't happen to them"

"Why can't they just follow the rules"

Why don't they think the rules apply to them"

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Not clean now ... He's not a kid and really should know the rules at 32 yes . Anyone can claim it's a small error ..simple be more careful

all over wrote:

Not clean now ... He's not a kid and really should know the rules at 32 yes . Anyone can claim it's a small error ..simple be more careful

You’re right but we sincerely believe he made an innocent mistake and to deprive him of the Olympics in Tokyo seems to be a very hard punishment which is not warranted in view of the infraction committed which as I said was not intended to gain any advantage over his competitors.

In a long career over a decade he has never been the subject of any wrong doing as far as we can gather up till now so we believe he is squeaky clean and this is a very tragic possible end to his career.

Sucks but this is silly. The list of stimulants allowed in-competition is very short; the list of prohibited in-competition stimulants is very long. It would have required 10 seconds to verify that the stimulant in his lozenges is banned by reading this list of non-prohibited substances: ‘Bupropion, caffeine, nicotine, phenylephrine, phenylpropanolamine, pipradrol, and synephrine: These substances are included in the 2021 Monitoring Program and are not considered Prohibited Substances.’

Link:

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/content/what-is-prohibited/prohibited-in-competition/stimulants

why are these drugs banned? And why should he not be suspended regardless of his religion. I hear that Houlihan is devout in her religion as well. Should Kariem be given a break because of his religion vs Houlihan's? I heard that Armstrong was more devout than even Kariem and Houlihan, shouldn't he also get his drug use overlooked?

I saw this "In July 2021, Swiss athlete and doctor Kariem Hussein was positively tested for nikethamide, which he regularly uses during training. He misses the 2020 Summer Olympics in Tokyo, and is banned from competitions for nine months" Regularly uses for training? What does that mean? Uses it devoutly?

U mean he is a Doctor and he uses that drug regularly 🤣 give him 2/4 years should know better

I don't understand why this would be available over the counter as a candy, although Wikipedia says "It is especially useful for mountain climbers to increase endurance at high altitudes," so maybe it's a thing in Switzerland.

Also, one of Hitler's favorite drugs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikethamide

Samuel Mahele Akili wrote:

Ghost1 isn't it a joke that so many banned substances are in normal everyday substances It really isn't fair I feel for him he's getting old as well what a shame

But then whenever a banned substance shows up then the excuse is "it was in a candy I ate" and we get more farcical Extenze type excuses.

He is 32 years old...not a "kid". I am working on stop calling college students kids but I am not sure 32 is in anyone's definition "a kid"---except your own off spring.

Ghost1 wrote:

all over wrote:

Not clean now ... He's not a kid and really should know the rules at 32 yes . Anyone can claim it's a small error ..simple be more careful

You’re right but we sincerely believe he made an innocent mistake and to deprive him of the Olympics in Tokyo seems to be a very hard punishment which is not warranted in view of the infraction committed which as I said was not intended to gain any advantage over his competitors.

In a long career over a decade he has never been the subject of any wrong doing as far as we can gather up till now so we believe he is squeaky clean and this is a very tragic possible end to his career.

So within close proximity of a big event, rules should slide?

flyingfrog wrote:

why are these drugs banned? And why should he not be suspended regardless of his religion. I hear that Houlihan is devout in her religion as well. Should Kariem be given a break because of his religion vs Houlihan's? I heard that Armstrong was more devout than even Kariem and Houlihan, shouldn't he also get his drug use overlooked?

I saw this "In July 2021, Swiss athlete and doctor Kariem Hussein was positively tested for nikethamide, which he regularly uses during training. He misses the 2020 Summer Olympics in Tokyo, and is banned from competitions for nine months" Regularly uses for training? What does that mean? Uses it devoutly?

I see your point but I think the post was misinterpreted and religion really has nothing to do with it. The overall point I tried to make was that he committed an infraction, but that it was an innocent mistake in which he did not seek to gain any advantage over his competitors and in fact he took the lozenges after the race as a recovery, not before the race.

The second point I’m trying to make is that the punishment really does not fit the “crime” (infraction) in order of magnitude.

His athletic career in effect has been severely damaged if not totally damaged now because at the age of 32 he will have little chance to be a contender in Paris in 2024.

In addition, the social implications can be very damaging because most people only look at a doping ban and don’t really research the magnitude of the infraction that was committed, in this case taking a few lozenges which are common “pick me ups” in Switzerland. People may consider him to be a drug cheat which is absolutely not the case.

One really feels for this man.

Tragic.