WTF Murphy and Hoppel?! - Isaiah Harris gets revenge and the win in Gateshead

!*@#@ wrote:

In retrospect he should have stayed home and trained. Winner of the Diamond League gets $10g. Does Murphy get paid to show up?

Shhh..

Jerry Schumacher is at home dancing on the grave of this one. Does this prove people should never ever race at all? I mean Murphy two weeks ago was the Olympic favorite. Now he's gone over to Europe and run like crap 3 times in a row.

Let's hope he got paid.

!*@#@ wrote:

Centro is our only male medal hope.

Hocker. Here, fixed it for you.

Yeah, I was thinking at some point they were treating those races as glorified workouts in a mini build up to the games, but both hoppel and murphy looked pretty maxed out/all out in the last 80m. Don't rly know what to think, would like for them to do well in tokyo but they've not been looking great.

I assume Murphy had all these raxes scheduled with appearance fees, then had his hamstring thing before the trials which limited his training and made him peak a bit early. He now seems to be training through these races to try and get his fitness back to it's trials level. For example after his Saturday race he did a workout on sunday knowing he has a race on Tuesday, an odd choice unless he's training through these races.

I feel like even if you make an 800 a “workout” or train through it, the last stretch still hurts like a b!tch

Jgt11 wrote:

I assume Murphy had all these raxes scheduled with appearance fees, then had his hamstring thing before the trials which limited his training and made him peak a bit early. He now seems to be training through these races to try and get his fitness back to it's trials level. For example after his Saturday race he did a workout on sunday knowing he has a race on Tuesday, an odd choice unless he's training through these races.

Curious as to how you know he had a workout. Is he on strava or something?

rojo wrote:

Jerry Schumacher is at home dancing on the grave of this one.

what does that mean?

rojo wrote:

Jgt11 wrote:

I assume Murphy had all these raxes scheduled with appearance fees, then had his hamstring thing before the trials which limited his training and made him peak a bit early. He now seems to be training through these races to try and get his fitness back to it's trials level. For example after his Saturday race he did a workout on sunday knowing he has a race on Tuesday, an odd choice unless he's training through these races.

Curious as to how you know he had a workoug. Is he on strava or something?

he posted about it on instagram

rojo wrote:

Jerry Schumacher is at home dancing on the grave of this one. Does this prove people should never ever race at all?

Trials Champions you should say. If you've got something to gain like Harris, Grace, Schlachtenhalfen or Osika you might as well.

Wonder what happened to Daniel Rowden? And where has Oliver Dustin gone? Hope Elliot Giles isn't our only 800m runner who makes it to Tokyo.

Jgt11 wrote:

I assume Murphy had all these raxes scheduled with appearance fees, then had his hamstring thing before the trials which limited his training and made him peak a bit early. He now seems to be training through these races to try and get his fitness back to it's trials level. For example after his Saturday race he did a workout on sunday knowing he has a race on Tuesday, an odd choice unless he's training through these races.

If he had a race, then workout two days before this race, that would explain why he ran like sh!t. I hope this is all according to a plan, and not just Murphy's ridiculous ego getting in the way again (e.g. when he blew his hamstring out going after the 1500/800 double in 2017).

Probably doing some heavy work.

Looked cooked at 600.

You guys are living in old times of the circuit if you think Murphy is getting any appearance fees to show up. There are fewer and fewer people getting start money. Listen up, the bottom has fallen out of track in europe. It’s just the way it is. Murphy was running for $10k first place like everyone else. He got less than a grand in the end.

Hot take: They’re getting the rust out now... by the time the games come around they’ll be race ready.

Better to be running rusty(and getting the rust out) now than round 1 of the Olympic 800.

800m PR over 2:00 wrote:

Hot take: They’re getting the rust out now... by the time the games come around they’ll be race ready.

Better to be running rusty(and getting the rust out) now than round 1 of the Olympic 800.

Rusty after the trials? The above take is a hot pile of you know what...

800m PR over 2:00 wrote:

Hot take: They’re getting the rust out now... by the time the games come around they’ll be race ready.

Better to be running rusty(and getting the rust out) now than round 1 of the Olympic 800.

Getting the rust out? Two weeks after the trials where he ran 1:43?? WTF, are you an idiot?

Still like Hoppel. Murphy sucks. He was never a favorite for anything. The favorite is going to be sitting at home hurt unfortunately.

As an American, my feeling, is something like "ehhh, you can't win them all"

We've had a good run. 2016, 2017, and 2019 went well, I don't think this will be our year in male distance, but there's a slight chance Hillary Bor could medal.

I have no idea if Hoppel and Murphy are out of it completely but Murphy should be proud of himself: Qualifying for 2 Olympics is not easy for an American and he at least delivered us one bronze. I don't think anyone from the US 1500 will make it to the top 5 simply bc it will be run way faster than 3:34 and none of the 3 Americans appear faster than 3:34 shape

I have to say I am extremely surprised by Murphy and Hoppel (in particular) and their little European mini-tour. I have no idea how this has helped either of them except financially, which ultimately will be worth peanuts compared to what they will/would have made if they made the podium (and god forbid even won) in Tokyo.

To get essentially straight on a plane after a draining US Trials (mentally because it always is and physically because it was 90 degrees + every day there and this does have a cumulative effect) and cross time zones to race what 3-4 times then back to the US before travelling across the other side of the world in another 2 weeks time makes zero sense. ZERO.

Say what you will about Centro, he knows exactly what he is doing. No wasted effort or energy - he started the season incredibly slowly, built perfectly to the level he needed to be at for the trials and he will only get better closer to Tokyo. Right now it appears that Murphy and Hoppel hit their peak in Eugene 3-4 weeks ago and are on the other side of the mountain. If I was those guys I would be getting back to the US as fast as possible and not even touching a pair of spikes for a week - just trying to rest and recharge the freaking batteries instead of ticking along on close to empty.