Where I live it is very hot(literally over 90 degrees all 24 hrs if you include humidity) and it very hard to run longer distances in these types of temperatures. I have been regularly doing doubles to help cope with this, but on these runs my heart rate still exceeds what it should be on easy runs. Should I just slow down more? Or should I lower the mileage per run and keep the same pace? It would be broken down like this 3 3 or 2 2 2( not those exact numbers but for example). Thanks guys
Calories burned, yes.
Fitness as far as running goes, no.
6 miles that day is better than 0
6 miles is not a long run. Unless you have a health issue, don't be so concerned about your heart rate. Go more with how you feel. Stay hydrated, run a tad slower in the heat if you have to. Talk to your doctor if you are really concerned about running in the heat, as it DOES cause serious issues for some people.
Flagpole wrote:
6 miles is not a long run. Unless you have a health issue, don't be so concerned about your heart rate. Go more with how you feel. Stay hydrated, run a tad slower in the heat if you have to. Talk to your doctor if you are really concerned about running in the heat, as it DOES cause serious issues for some people.
I understand that 6 miles is not a long run. I was merely using that as an example. I appreciate the feedback though.
Summer = survival.
I live in the Southeast where it's hotter than hell and humid, 24/7, right now. During summers, my goal is to focus on getting my intended weekly mileage in. That requires that I slow down, especially during my easy runs. If I don't slow down during my easy runs, the heat turns them into temp runs, which zaps my energy for my next actual hard workout.
Slow down. Run at sunrise. Split runs up. Just get the mileage in. You're just not going to be able to go at the same pace in the summer. Accept it. The speed will naturally come back in the fall.
decent runner wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
6 miles is not a long run. Unless you have a health issue, don't be so concerned about your heart rate. Go more with how you feel. Stay hydrated, run a tad slower in the heat if you have to. Talk to your doctor if you are really concerned about running in the heat, as it DOES cause serious issues for some people.
I understand that 6 miles is not a long run. I was merely using that as an example. I appreciate the feedback though.
Ok. Fair enough.
Flagpole wrote:
6 miles is not a long run.
This is where intelligence matters. Your statement is on its face absurd. The answer to the question of whether 6 miles is a long run is entirely predicated on who is doing it. Please educate yourself more before posting.
zoomN wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
6 miles is not a long run.
This is where intelligence matters. Your statement is on its face absurd. The answer to the question of whether 6 miles is a long run is entirely predicated on who is doing it. Please educate yourself more before posting.
Not true. By your reasoning, a person who has never run before and is 400 pounds who runs for 50 yards, that is then a "long run". Nope. It might be the longest run that person has ever done, but the OP was talking about training and whether it would be good to split up a 6 mile run (that he called a long run) into three shorter runs. When using that as the basis for discussion (and not even having to have that much data even), a 6 mile run is not a long run.
Serious training begins at the high school level, and 6 miles is not a long run. Not today. Not yesterday. Not tomorrow.
Is 2M even worth getting all sweaty and having to shower again? Especially if you are doing it 3 times??
I get that it is very hot, but dude you got to be able to get in a least 5 or 6M.
YersiniaPestis wrote:
Is 2M even worth getting all sweaty and having to shower again? Especially if you are doing it 3 times??
I get that it is very hot, but dude you got to be able to get in a least 5 or 6M.
Again, I will repeat myself, the 2 miles at 3 different times was simply an example. My question was more along the lines of the possibility of a benefit of a third run to keep the heart rate down on easy days when the temperatures are 100+. And if it makes you feel any better about my fitness, the “triples” I would be doing would be anywhere from 4-6 miles.
Your reply is stupid. It depends on your fitness. If you can only run 6 miles at 11-minute pace it's an hour long run which makes it a long run.
Flagpole wrote:
6 miles is not a long run. Unless you have a health issue, don't be so concerned about your heart rate. Go more with how you feel. Stay hydrated, run a tad slower in the heat if you have to. Talk to your doctor if you are really concerned about running in the heat, as it DOES cause serious issues for some people.
No. Just go get it done and ignore your HR. This is one of the reasons why HR training is stupid.
I thought the first 20 minutes of running just burns sugar. I would think 2 x 3 miles would be a lot better than 3 x 2 miles...plus all the laundry dude...
Apologies for flagpole. I think he's having a bad day.
The answer is that a 3 and a 4 is as good as or better than one six. That's what I would aim for, personally. Double and add an extra mile.
Oh, and yes. Slow down if necessary, too. Pace needs to be adjusted for heat/humidity.
Is it different--Yes.
Is it worse--Not necessarily.
For aerobic development one run is probably better than multiple. However on a recovery day, multiple runs could be more beneficial. Repeated short bouts of exercise throughout the day releases more growth hormones than single bouts.
https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/jappl.1997.83.5.1756
My opinion: if your goal is your best performance, you'll need to pick some days to power through the heat and go a bit longer. On recovery days, breaking up your sessions isn't the worst thing.
bartholomew_maxwell wrote:
Your reply is stupid. It depends on your fitness. If you can only run 6 miles at 11-minute pace it's an hour long run which makes it a long run.
Flagpole wrote:
6 miles is not a long run. Unless you have a health issue, don't be so concerned about your heart rate. Go more with how you feel. Stay hydrated, run a tad slower in the heat if you have to. Talk to your doctor if you are really concerned about running in the heat, as it DOES cause serious issues for some people.
NOPE!
In answer to your headline question, Yes! 2+2+2 = 6
More info now wrote:
No. Just go get it done and ignore your HR. This is one of the reasons why HR training is stupid.
how people can train by HR in the summer is beyond me. I'd have to be walking to stay within those HR perimeters.