His finish is something else. It's lethal like a prime lagat kick. When was the last time we saw someone close the final 100 this fast? Maybe Cacho in 92 even though he let off in the final few meters?
what was his last 200 and 400?
Don’t have exact number but I had it at about 24 high and 52 last quarter. Take these numbers with a grain of salt.
52.49 from the meet timer. Same Twitter account i linked before.
https://twitter.com/athletetracking/status/1409376505692446721?s=19
Hocker:
Last 400m - 52.5
Last 200m - 25.3
Last 100m - 12.3
That dude has some serious power at the end of a race. Similar to Taoufik Makhloufi.
It’s the shoes! Cole Hocker and Nuguse only ran some of the fastest ever NCAA times because of the shoes! There’s no way the first and 3rd best American 1500 runners can run 3:34 and 3:35 unless they have special shoes! Name another year where two of the top 3 Americans were that fast!
the shoes maaan wrote:
It’s the shoes! Cole Hocker and Nuguse only ran some of the fastest ever NCAA times because of the shoes! There’s no way the first and 3rd best American 1500 runners can run 3:34 and 3:35 unless they have special shoes! Name another year where two of the top 3 Americans were that fast!
2019, 2017, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2009, 2007, 2006, 2005 and 2001.
Sopa de Sabadell wrote:
the shoes maaan wrote:
It’s the shoes! Cole Hocker and Nuguse only ran some of the fastest ever NCAA times because of the shoes! There’s no way the first and 3rd best American 1500 runners can run 3:34 and 3:35 unless they have special shoes! Name another year where two of the top 3 Americans were that fast!
2019, 2017, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2009, 2007, 2006, 2005 and 2001.
you win
Sopa de Sabadell wrote:
Hocker:
Last 400m - 52.5
Last 200m - 25.3
Last 100m - 12.3
In recent times, the only athlete close is Elijah Manangoi. People are saying Makhloufi, but not really. Hocker is a "shifter" like Leo Manzano.
Jessen jeffla wrote:
https://twitter.com/athletetracking/status/1409380206012354562?s=19His finish is something else. It's lethal like a prime lagat kick. When was the last time we saw someone close the final 100 this fast? Maybe Cacho in 92 even though he let off in the final few meters?
Manzano finished in 12.0 in 2012.
https://www.runnersworld.com/advanced/a20804196/the-underdog/Sopa de Sabadell wrote:
Hocker:
Last 400m - 52.5
Last 200m - 25.3
Last 100m - 12.3
No 1500m runner (not Centro, not Jakob, no Brit, no East African, nobody) on the planet has this finishing power right now in a 3.35 race. I've pointed out that these splits in this time quality of race historically match-up with World and Olympic title winning efforts of the past.
If someone can find splits from someone else that match up with what Hocker has now done twice in two weekends, please feel free to post them. Simple criteria is that it has to be a mid 3.30 race (say 3.34-37) with a split around 2min (1.58-2.01) at 800m. The final 200m needs to be 25.5 or faster
Ball is in anyone's court here to prove my statement wrong. No BS, just facts by way of numbers.
Cole Hocker is one of the most intriguing and crazy talents we have seen - right up there with J.I et al
1980 Olympics Coe. Slower race (3:38.4 WT), but posters there have 12.1, 52.2 splits for Coe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMz0WZzWWlw&ab_channel=AthletixStuffChannel
Yeah, bit of a difference between 3.35.28 ET and 3.38.4 HT (which is more like 3.38.6X electronic).
Nearly 3.5 seconds is considerable no? So this is a decent example but not really a comparable one.
But the fact we are using Seb Coe (universally regarded as the best kicker of all time over the 1500m/mile) as our measuring stick kind of proves my point.
Coe 1984 is a better one.
It's a different, faster race (58.85, 1.56.81, 2.53.21) but Coe rips off the famous "double kick" in the last 200 going 25.8 and 12.7 in the last 100m
Take a look at Manangoi's 2015 World Championship 1500m final. You kind of just have to ignore Kiprop unbelievable (and probably doping-enhanced) last lap. But Manangoi demolishes people the last 70 meters. He has the missed tests violation, but I'd say his style is pretty close to Hocker's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5Q9Ql6PUgs&ab_channel=WorldAthletics
It's not undisputed that Coe had the best kick of all time. Jim Ryun could equal or surpass him. On chewed up dirt in the twilight in Dusseldorf in 1967, Jim Ryun closed a 3:38 1500m in 50 with a last 300m in about 36.5. The shame is that the Germans don't upload the complete footage of the race so that we can time it. Hocker closed the last 300m in 38.6 on a fast track but then it was very, very hot (comparable to Ryun's 3:33.1 wr, I think), but didn't really get fully going until he broke out of the box with a little over 100m to go.
Ryan at Dusseldorf:
Salvitore Stitchmo wrote:
Cole Hocker is one of the most intriguing and crazy talents we have seen - right up there with J.I et al
Who is J.I ?
yeah that's a good one - big Manny on the sauce but must have dropped a storming last 200 there well under 26 and ran 3.35?
His final 300m was exactly 38.95 as he led at 1200 in 2.55.68 and finished in 3.34.63