I am speaking about events along the lines of the Fifth Avenue Mile. That is a cool event and just about any able bodied man or woman can haul for a mile.
I am speaking about events along the lines of the Fifth Avenue Mile. That is a cool event and just about any able bodied man or woman can haul for a mile.
the mile requires you to run fast.
most recreational runners are not familiar with the concept of training hard to run fast. training to run long and slow is their idea of being an athlete, so they wont pay for a short one mile race, which means not enough money to make it worthwhile to organize.
Because miler are sprinters, not distance runner bozo.
I agree, why do fat people like to draw out their misery? Do they know how comical they look and just like to service their niche in society?
Maybe if the distance is as short as a mile they would feel the need to run hard and be competitive, and the ensuing pain would remind them that they are fat and useless.
running is nice but sex is bet wrote:
Because miler are sprinters, not distance runner bozo.
so i guess a 5000m, 10,000m, or marathon runner cant run a road mile, b/c theyre not sprinters, right bozo?
Same reason why there aren't 400m road races. Why close off such a small section of the road? The longer the race the more you can charge.
Alan
Because the slow ones don't want to brag to their friends that they "finished" a road mile.
Actually, in California, we do have some more of these, one fairly large one in Santa Barbara (State Street Mile), another fairly large one in Sacramento (Capitol Mile), and several more.
There also used to be a series of 26 mile races in one day (different sexes, age groups, etc.) put on by the Manhattan Beach Track Club. If you ran all 26 mile races, they called it the "Manhattan Marathon." It has to be the most painful way to run a marathon.
I wish there were more. They could always just add it to the main event. Like have a 5k and a 1 mile. What's wrong with that?
[quote]Speed Kills wrote:
Because the slow ones don't want to brag to their friends that they "finished" a road mile.
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This is probably true. Most people who run road races are not really into "racing". They just want to finish the race so they can say, "Oh yeah, I've run a 10k." So a one mile road race probably wouldnt draw as many participants because it wouldnt be cool for people to brag about running a mile. As competitive runners we know that a one mile race can be just as challenging if you actually run fast and make a race of it. But most recreational runners just think that finishing is the accomplishment to shoot for and thus, the longer the more impressive.
Runningart2004 wrote:
Same reason why there aren't 400m road races. Why close off such a small section of the road? The longer the race the more you can charge.
Alan
not to mention that the mile has traditionally been a track event and to put it on the road is odd.
Yes, I agree. Some people aim for distance, not actually how good the performance is. I.e., they aim to complete, not to compete.
wait.
If there are different races for different sexes, how do you run them both if you're trying to do the full 26?
As someone that tried to put on one (and was forced to cancel due to traffic issues) and did put on another, I can say that they're more logitically difficult than a longer race to stage.
Milers don't want to go around a cone, and if you do an out and back there's really a constant stream forcing a full blockade of the road. Some police depts (like mine) hassle you for that. You can't really do them on paved trails (a recommendation by cities) because you need a wide start or everyone gets tied up. You need to do heats, so it can take longer to do a road mile that a 5K (say a kids mile, open men, open women, masters, etc). If you go point to point you need a method to start the timers and get them (quickly) to the finish or use radios/cells. People need to get back to the start, oddly enough even "serious" runners react poorly to the fact that their car is a mile away from the finish (know this from experience).
I got shut down trying the out and back, and heard the pissing and moaning about the cone scenario anyway, some said they wouldn't run it because of it. I tried a "festival of miles" at the fairgrounds using the circular paved midway but the fairgrounds was going to charge me too much money. We tried a straight-on mile down a runway at a airshow but got shut down by the FAA (even though the airport was going to be closed for the air show).
The only one that's worked so far was the downhill mile point to point. I'd still like to do it again, but it's more work than I ever would have expected.
Keith,
I am part of a small group putting on a one mile, downhill, point-to-point road race in Dec. It will precede a large Christmas parade and we have the full cooperation of the parade committee and public safety.
With the road already closed for an extended period of time, full cooperation from public safety and a limited, elite/invitational field, are we going to avoid most of what made it so difficult for you?
We don't have transport back to the finish because the roads that are open tend to be gridlocked, but we do have a warming/awards place that is roughly at the half mile mark.
Thanks.
My favourite race of the year is the 5th St Mile in my hometown of Courtenay BC every July 1st. About 100 people do it, records are 4:14/4:49 for men and women, ages 5 to 85, many run 8min-10min and don't care. It is a fantastic little event that continues to grow. Too bad thast "more is better" pervades running. Many people I know eill not drive 150 miles to a 5k race, and the usual response is "all that way for a 5k?"
A race is a race! And, the Mile rules!
Because they're not worth the five minutes it takes for me to fun it.HAHA... 4:58
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I am speaking about events along the lines of the Fifth Avenue Mile. That is a cool event and just about any able bodied man or woman can haul for a mile.
That's really funny, I meant to type run but I typed "fun". Kind of ironic.
mommy mommy wrote:
I am part of a small group putting on a one mile, downhill, point-to-point road race in Dec. It will precede a large Christmas parade and we have the full cooperation of the parade committee and public safety.
Oddly enough, the event I had cancelled by the police was on a route that would precede a large Christmas parade. Turns out that while the route itself was going to be closed to traffic and the civic organization I was working with said we had the full cooperation of public safety to use the route and the street we were going to use WAS closed end to end, the Avenue's crossing it were not and wouldn't be to allow people to get to the parade and park.
I would recommend having a sit down with the police face to face, no intermediaries, and explain to them what going to happen and the timing. Point to point you have fewer issues because the crowd will cross each intersection quickly and not turn around and come back. My mistake was allowing the civic group to work out the permit and they did not convey the logistics properly to the police.
This is sort of self serving, but since you all are talking about it (and no I didn't start the thread) UCSD is hosting the 2nd Annual Miracle Mile, a "downhill" mile road race this upcoming weekend.
A group of alumni came up with the idea after having a discussion much like this one.
There used to be a great festival of miles here in San Diego a while back that Steve Scott was associated with but which has since been cancelled. We are hoping to fill what we see as a void.
I definitely agree with those who have commented on the lack of recreational runner interest in an event like this since it doesn't have the glory of a 5k, 10k, or marathon, but if your community has a good number of runners in it you can usually find some interest, especially in the masters divisions.
We have been fortunate to avoid many of the challenges that come with hosting a road race as we host this race on our campus where it is a little easier to get roads closed for a few hours on a Sunday morning.
Here's the web site:
http://www.ucsdmiraclemile.com
If any of you are interested in racing or have questions about how we got around some of the hurdles to hosting this race email me.
Keith,
Thanks. We just had a big meeting two weeks ago with all of the law enforcement and parade organizer people. The police are clear on how this is suppose to go. They have had trouble in the past with people actually moving the side street barriers to get across the main road. Our town is not that big and they bring in the County Sheriff's dept. to help out the local officers. When I proposed adding a few civilians on bikes who could monitor these side streets during the race, the guy said it was a great idea, but that they would use their officers (a bike unit) on parade day. So, I think they know what to do, but this is one reason why I didn't want to start out with 200 people. Easier to fine tune with a very limited field.