C. Teare on super spikes: "I think it's stupid to really credit everything to the spikes..I feel I could have run barefoot."

i'm not good enough maybe, but i think the new shoes give like 1 sec a 400 at best... and actually 0sec a 400 for any thing longer than 800 ... deftly for those guys... the whole point of spikes is to run more on your toes right? the shoes carbon frame.... cmon...

maybe the ounces of weight helps them because they drank a lil bit too much water earlier...

Luis Grijalva ran in Adidas Avanti....

Teare sounds ridiculous when he says he does not want to credit the spikes at all. However I sort of understand because he is running hard to win just like runners from years before. Teare probably does not break McChesney’s record without the spikes but surely he showed guts to get the victory and he deserved it.

So, if the spikes "work," precisely how? Make you bounce higher? Please show us what you know about running mechanics.

tinisaur wrote:

Teare sounds ridiculous when he says he does not want to credit the spikes at all. However I sort of understand because he is running hard to win just like runners from years before. Teare probably does not break McChesney’s record without the spikes but surely he showed guts to get the victory and he deserved it.

So if the spikes made Teare, say 3-4 seconds faster then you would have to conclude that Grijalva would have won if he had been wearing them. But of course there is no way to know how the race would have played out any differently if Grijalva was wearing the same shoes as Teare. Would he have make an earlier move, outkicked Teare at the end? What, exactly, do you think would have been different in that race?

The point is there are so many other factors that come into play in any given race that impact the time, such as the level of competition, the race tactics, weather conditions, etc. That's why it's impossible for Teare to give any kind of meaningful answer to the question about how many seconds the spikes were worth.

Teare’s comment:”I don’t really like to credit anything to the spikes, necessarily.” This is an absurd comment and shows how he is pumping himself up with delusional thinking. Teare likely would have finished no higher than 15th running barefoot. However, the question is naturally going to annoy anyone because it is taken as if one is trying to discredit one’s achievements. So naturally he dismisses it as if the question has no merit. The question has merit but at the same time it appears irrelevant to a guy who just won a hard fought NCAA title and he naturally wants the credit to go to himself, his coaches, his teammates and not the shoes. And so it should.

tinisaur wrote:

Teare’s comment:”I don’t really like to credit anything to the spikes, necessarily.” This is an absurd comment and shows how he is pumping himself up with delusional thinking. Teare likely would have finished no higher than 15th running barefoot. However, the question is naturally going to annoy anyone because it is taken as if one is trying to discredit one’s achievements. So naturally he dismisses it as if the question has no merit. The question has merit but at the same time it appears irrelevant to a guy who just won a hard fought NCAA title and he naturally wants the credit to go to himself, his coaches, his teammates and not the shoes. And so it should.

Does a carpenter accredit his hammers? There are better hammers and worse hammers, but when someone looks at a table, they praise the carpenter and not the hammer.

Same goes here. It is ludicrous to ask a guy who worked really hard for this race if it's the shoes.

The issue is not that Teare does not get full credit. He clearly does. But next time he should go barefoot or shut up about saying he could have done what he did barefoot.

Kyome wrote:

The issue is not that Teare does not get full credit. He clearly does. But next time he should go barefoot or shut up about saying he could have done what he did barefoot.

Teare is a little full of himself, which winning most NCAA races does to a guy. He also lies about his pure speed. It's about time he faces big dogs at the OT to get a reality check.

Precisely. In a nut shell!

EVERY comment you have is about the spikes. From a person who probably hasn’t spiked up 30 years. Teare knows better than you do.

think first wrote:

Kyome wrote:

The issue is not that Teare does not get full credit. He clearly does. But next time he should go barefoot or shut up about saying he could have done what he did barefoot.

Teare is a little full of himself, which winning most NCAA races does to a guy. He also lies about his pure speed. It's about time he faces big dogs at the OT to get a reality check.

Not saying that he will make the team but the US has one of the most shallow pools of 5k runners ever right now this was kind of a dumb thing to say

Whenever I'm at the line against people with super spikes, I don't feel at a competitive disadvantage at all. In fact, I find that it hardly makes a difference if I wear sneakers or spikes. And yeah, I actually do Zola Budd sometimes on plush grass. What you wear really doesn't make that much of a difference IMO.

#ChristianityRocks

Sham 69 wrote:

Whenever I'm at the line against people with super spikes, I don't feel at a competitive disadvantage at all. In fact, I find that it hardly makes a difference if I wear sneakers or spikes. And yeah, I actually do Zola Budd sometimes on plush grass. What you wear really doesn't make that much of a difference IMO.

#ChristianityRocks

True, if you're a 4:40 miler.

#thereisnogod

Good thing you’re clearly not a journalist Robert.

This is what kills me, regarding some comments on here consistently.

It is almost 40 FORTY years later than Billy McChesney.

https://worldathletics.org/athletes/united-states/bill-mcchesney-14346073

Teare has run faster at the mile by over 6 seconds, and now at 5K.

Why is it such a frigging miracle to many that marks have clearly improved. Again, only in T&F , especially mid/LD running do folks not willingly accept inprovements.

Teare is a 3:50 Indoor miler, you want to add 2-3 secs, fine, McChesney was a 3:56.x gut once, is it that remarkable that a kid who isn't afraid to get out on the edge with great 5K closing speed for the NCAA level could run this? Without doubling and being fresh, and assuming a solid pace, I saw Teare running 13:15, he has already run 13:20.

Look, the shoes are better and they are not going away, and anyone can wear them, get past this already, the same stuff clutters the boards and trivializes, quite frankly marks that should have been run 15-20 years ago. Considering McChesney ran his 13:14 in a Euro Summer meet in 1982? At 23?

And I meant faster at 5K than McChesney, period, not the 6 seconds faster I referred to at a mile.