Is her best event possibly the 400m, running the 49.68 off 800m training is unusual. She is only 18 and the year is not over, she may drop a 49.3 in the finals and in a few years dip below 49 without ever focusing on the event.
But maybe she trains in a way that is somewhat optimal for the 400m and doesn't have as much room for improvement as I I believe.Does anyone know what her training is like?
from what i can glean from 800u, athlete interviews, and social media (of great interest to me since i am a a guy who loves the 800 but is probably better at the 400)
a&m's 800m group "trains for the 600"
30-35mpw, mostly in the form of aerobic intervals and stuff at race pace or faster
devin dixon has referred to 40 minutes as his weekly long run.
the 800 runners that are getting 4x400 slots are pulled into workouts with the entirely separate 400m squad
Thanks for the info, that type of training can probably allow her to be pretty fast over 400m, but I imagine she'd go significantly faster with a pure 400m program.
"Is Athing Mu a 400m sprinter who trains for the 800m?"
Reminds me of a young Obea Moore. Unlike him, she seems to have her priorities straight.
She is simply the modern day El Caballo in female form....
LA YEGUA!
El Caballo ftw wrote:
She is simply the modern day El Caballo in female form....
LA YEGUA!
We all know why he was called "the horse". It was not because of his running...
flvmmox wrote:
from what i can glean from 800u, athlete interviews, and social media (of great interest to me since i am a a guy who loves the 800 but is probably better at the 400)
a&m's 800m group "trains for the 600"
30-35mpw, mostly in the form of aerobic intervals and stuff at race pace or faster
devin dixon has referred to 40 minutes as his weekly long run.
the 800 runners that are getting 4x400 slots are pulled into workouts with the entirely separate 400m squad
this is clear
You know nothing about A&M's program and this si clear.
well,, wrote:
El Caballo ftw wrote:
She is simply the modern day El Caballo in female form....
LA YEGUA!
We all know why he was called "the horse". It was not because of his running...
It was because of his long....stride. And what is so distinctive about La Yegua?
id love to see her do battle with the two young namibian girls in the 400 meters at the world junior championships.That race would be a cracker.
HABD wrote:
this is clear
You know nothing about A&M's program and this si clear.
i'm not an insider and don't claim to be.
i'm going by what their own athletes say in interviews and IG live. of course they can just make stuff up (and may be encouraged to do so) but these things were all said by one of orange/dixon/mu
if you are on the team i'd love to know what you're actually doing :)
400 is not a sprint, it’s the shortest middle distance. Heck some 100m athletes struggle to maintain sprint form over even 100m! The most disciplined do it in the 200, and some can take it to 300.
You could say that the 400 can be run 3/4 as a sort of sprint—bit mostly it is not.
She runs, she does not sprint.
I know the 400m is not technically a sprint, becuase sprints should be at 90 percent of your maximum speed, but it is classified as one. I was just asking if people thought Mu had more potential in the 400m than the 800m.
She is ranked #1 in the world at 800m and only 4th in the world at 400m (3rd junior).
It feels like she is an 800m runner.
Sprintgeezer wrote:
400 is not a sprint, it’s the shortest middle distance. Heck some 100m athletes struggle to maintain sprint form over even 100m! The most disciplined do it in the 200, and some can take it to 300.
You could say that the 400 can be run 3/4 as a sort of sprint—bit mostly it is not.
She runs, she does not sprint.
So you were too lazy to train for the 400? Right.
You run, you don't sprint.
The top 800m and 400m times in any given year will not likley be equal, how often do junior sprinters drop a 49 sec 400m. Also I was talking about her potential. She is top 5 in an event she doesn't train specifically for.
arhsrth wrote:
Sprintgeezer wrote:
400 is not a sprint, it’s the shortest middle distance. Heck some 100m athletes struggle to maintain sprint form over even 100m! The most disciplined do it in the 200, and some can take it to 300.
You could say that the 400 can be run 3/4 as a sort of sprint—bit mostly it is not.
She runs, she does not sprint.
So you were too lazy to train for the 400? Right.
You run, you don't sprint.
What this is supposed to mean, I have no idea.
The differences between 400 and 800 are many: start and accel can actually mean something in the 4, block technique and first few steps can get you maybe 0.4 with no extra energy; running in lanes the whole way isn’t the same as group running, and of course the speed: bottom line is that 400 athletes have it, 800 don’t.
Look at WVN, Ackbar, Felix, SMU, etc—there is no way their 800 counterparts are staying with them in a 200 or 100m race. Not even close.
IMO to get an idea of Mu’s actual speed would take an open 200 or 100. It’s about the power that an athlete can generate. This would be evidence one way or another about her 400 prospects. I will say this, that if she showed any significant speed over 200m, then she would have potential be the best clean 400m athlete in history.
Right now her apparent lack of power/speed points to 800 IMO, because her running fluidity seems so efficient. Heck she might be optimized for 800 if her aerobic capacity isn’t huge.
400/800, but better at 800.
unknown sprinters wrote:
Is her best event possibly the 400m, running the 49.68 off 800m training is unusual. She is only 18 and the year is not over, she may drop a 49.3 in the finals and in a few years dip below 49 without ever focusing on the event.
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Running 49.7 is unusual. But I think you are overestimating the differences between a speed based 800m program(she isn't running 60mpw) and an endurance based 400m one and how hard improvement gets.
It will be great to see what she can do in a 156 race.