That's some serious weight, he did this last month and he hit 705 for 10 last year.
That's some serious weight, he did this last month and he hit 705 for 10 last year.
Show us the video.
We can now make some declarations: 1) shot putters need to free weight squat x 3 body weight.
2) 100m to 800m athletes need to free weight squat x 2 1/2 body weight.
3) Runners, 1500m to Marathon need to free weight squat x 2 body weight.
4) Ultra runners ... . I have no idea.
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We can now make some declarations: 1) shot putters need to free weight squat x 3 body weight.
2) 100m to 800m athletes need to free weight squat x 2 1/2 body weight.
3) Runners, 1500m to Marathon need to free weight squat x 2 body weight.
4) Ultra runners ... . I have no idea.
Most middle distance and long distance runners can MAYBE squat 1 x body weight.
That's not a full squat....He avoided the toughest part of the movement which is at the bottom.
Looks like he is hitting a good hip crease to knee angle. I think this is right at squat depth. ATG is different that a squat.
ZERO!!!
runnerboy70 wrote:
That's not a full squat....He avoided the toughest part of the movement which is at the bottom.
idk about shotputters but it is generally advised for runners to not go ATG on squats
think firster wrote:
show the video wrote:
We can now make some declarations: 1) shot putters need to free weight squat x 3 body weight.
2) 100m to 800m athletes need to free weight squat x 2 1/2 body weight.
3) Runners, 1500m to Marathon need to free weight squat x 2 body weight.
4) Ultra runners ... . I have no idea.
Most middle distance and long distance runners can MAYBE squat 1 x body weight.
Are you referring to 16 year old 2:05 to 2:09 800m runners? Sub-50 400m guys should be squatting x 2 their weight.
Impressive, but I am skeptical the first three would count in a power lifting competition.
Can't tell...is this with knee wraps?
think firster wrote:
show the video wrote:
We can now make some declarations: 1) shot putters need to free weight squat x 3 body weight.
2) 100m to 800m athletes need to free weight squat x 2 1/2 body weight.
3) Runners, 1500m to Marathon need to free weight squat x 2 body weight.
4) Ultra runners ... . I have no idea.
Most middle distance and long distance runners can MAYBE squat 1 x body weight.
I was a P5 distance runner with a good post-college career, so maybe we were stronger... But everyone could do their body weight in squats no problem. Usually at least body weight for sets of 8-10 without really pushing to the max. A 140 pound guy distance runner would lift 135-155 pounds for sets of 8 regularly and if we were really getting after it for sets of only 3 for real power we'd lift 185 or even 225 pounds for a really powerful distance runner. If you can't squat your bodyweight you're pretty weak.
You must be around weak people wrote:
think firster wrote:
Most middle distance and long distance runners can MAYBE squat 1 x body weight.
I was a P5 distance runner with a good post-college career, so maybe we were stronger... But everyone could do their body weight in squats no problem. Usually at least body weight for sets of 8-10 without really pushing to the max. A 140 pound guy distance runner would lift 135-155 pounds for sets of 8 regularly and if we were really getting after it for sets of only 3 for real power we'd lift 185 or even 225 pounds for a really powerful distance runner. If you can't squat your bodyweight you're pretty weak.
Tell that to Kipchoge, who would probably have a hard time squatting with an empty bar. If you can squat,, below parallel, 225lbs. You are not made for distance running.
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think firster wrote:
Most middle distance and long distance runners can MAYBE squat 1 x body weight.
Are you referring to 16 year old 2:05 to 2:09 800m runners? Sub-50 400m guys should be squatting x 2 their weight.
I remember the day I ran 2:04.99 and 49.99 and suddenly my squat went to x2 my body weight
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think firster wrote:
Most middle distance and long distance runners can MAYBE squat 1 x body weight.
Are you referring to 16 year old 2:05 to 2:09 800m runners? Sub-50 400m guys should be squatting x 2 their weight.
800m guys don't. Source: used to train with several 1:49 - 1:52 guys. We never trained with max. weight, only tried it once for fun. Everyone maxed out at 1 - 1.5 x bodyweight with 1.5x being more of a 400/800 type and 1x being 800/1500 type.
Seb Coe could squat 1.5x and El G routine included 25x25kg. Elite runners do not train with max. weight, as it would make them worse. Therefore they also would max out pretty soon, as they are not used to heavy weights.
You must be around weak people wrote:
think firster wrote:
Most middle distance and long distance runners can MAYBE squat 1 x body weight.
I was a P5 distance runner with a good post-college career, so maybe we were stronger... But everyone could do their body weight in squats no problem. Usually at least body weight for sets of 8-10 without really pushing to the max. A 140 pound guy distance runner would lift 135-155 pounds for sets of 8 regularly and if we were really getting after it for sets of only 3 for real power we'd lift 185 or even 225 pounds for a really powerful distance runner. If you can't squat your bodyweight you're pretty weak.
Exactly.
Isn't there a photo of Sebastian Coe in, Better Training for Distance Runners free weight squatting more than twice his body weight?
Weight training with heavy weights was one way Coe went from watching 1976 Summer Olympics on tv to Coe finishing 3rd, 1978 European Championships, 800m.
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Exactly.
Isn't there a photo of Sebastian Coe in, Better Training for Distance Runners free weight squatting more than twice his body weight?
Weight training with heavy weights was one way Coe went from watching 1976 Summer Olympics on tv to Coe finishing 3rd, 1978 European Championships, 800m.
Weight training is helpful but....
Part of the issue is balancing weight training with all of your running. It’s tough because there’s only so many hours in a day and hs/college coaches can’t have practice sessions longer than 2 hours.
Your workout is warm up, drills, strides, run, strides, cool down. Getting into the weight room could add another hour to your training session. Then after practice you have to shower, change, travel home, eat, academics, sleep. That’s a full day.
Will a weight room session give you better results than a run? Most places don’t have a large enough weight room to handle a full team.
A coach might only be able to supervise body weight exercises on the field during practice time.
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You must be around weak people wrote:
I was a P5 distance runner with a good post-college career, so maybe we were stronger... But everyone could do their body weight in squats no problem. Usually at least body weight for sets of 8-10 without really pushing to the max. A 140 pound guy distance runner would lift 135-155 pounds for sets of 8 regularly and if we were really getting after it for sets of only 3 for real power we'd lift 185 or even 225 pounds for a really powerful distance runner. If you can't squat your bodyweight you're pretty weak.
Isn't there a photo of Sebastian Coe in, Better Training for Distance Runners free weight squatting more than twice his body weight?
Coe is squatting 90-95kg in that photo, that would make 1.5-1.75x bodyweight.
Also most of you here are talking about half squats, while I'm talking about full squats. Some runners even do quarter squats (Makhloufi).
As a runner who turned to weights to avoid being frail as I age, I love coming on here when lifting is discussed. It's comical.