For the 1500, I think with Cheruiyot and Jakob 3:32:07 will fall. Jakob knows Cheruiyot has incredible finishing speed, and so it's in his interest to heat things up as soon as possible. While at the same time Cheruiyot isn't the kind to sit back and wait.
For the 5000, we will probably have at least 6 guys in sub 12:50 shape. I think 12:57:82 will fall.
For the 10000, I'm less sure because it's long enough to see all kind of strategies playing out even with so many fast guys.
Starno wrote:
For the 1500, I think with Cheruiyot and Jakob 3:32:07 will fall. Jakob knows Cheruiyot has incredible finishing speed, and so it's in his interest to heat things up as soon as possible. While at the same time Cheruiyot isn't the kind to sit back and wait.
For the 5000, we will probably have at least 6 guys in sub 12:50 shape. I think 12:57:82 will fall.
What does Jakob have to gain by heating things up? As long as the pace is reasonable he will torch everyone else, but it doesn’t really matter whether they run 3:28 or 3:33, he’s not catching Tim. He is well behind over 800m (1:43 vs 1:46) and hasn’t shown 3:26 - 3:27 ability like Tim has.
The 5k will be interesting. It feels weird saying this but I don’t see how Cheptegei can win over guys like Barega and Kiplimo unless the pace is absurdly fast. He doesn’t seem to have the finishing ability of past record holders and Olympic champions.
I agree with your assessment that both records have a good chance of falling and wouldn’t be surprised to see the 10k record go as well.
gsjeljdhebdmd wrote:
Starno wrote:
For the 1500, I think with Cheruiyot and Jakob 3:32:07 will fall. Jakob knows Cheruiyot has incredible finishing speed, and so it's in his interest to heat things up as soon as possible. While at the same time Cheruiyot isn't the kind to sit back and wait.
For the 5000, we will probably have at least 6 guys in sub 12:50 shape. I think 12:57:82 will fall.
What does Jakob have to gain by heating things up? As long as the pace is reasonable he will torch everyone else, but it doesn’t really matter whether they run 3:28 or 3:33, he’s not catching Tim. He is well behind over 800m (1:43 vs 1:46) and hasn’t shown 3:26 - 3:27 ability like Tim has.
The 5k will be interesting. It feels weird saying this but I don’t see how Cheptegei can win over guys like Barega and Kiplimo unless the pace is absurdly fast. He doesn’t seem to have the finishing ability of past record holders and Olympic champions.
I agree with your assessment that both records have a good chance of falling and wouldn’t be surprised to see the 10k record go as well.
I see you're a Timmy fanboy and this is funny stuff. Lol, I don't think Timmy boy has shown 3:26-3-27 speed either being that his PR is 3:28.... actually only .2 seconds faster than Jakob. You try to make it sound like he's something special but he sure ain't. Jakob has likely closed the gap already.
Also, El G has an 800pr of 1:47. Foolish foolish little one
no nonsense please wrote:
[quote]gsjeljdhebdmd wrote:
Also, El G has an 800pr of 1:47. Foolish foolish little one
El G run almost one or two 800m in the whole of his carrer.
He learned the lesson from Aouita who wanted to do everything.
As has Jakob. Jakob does not take 800 seriously at all, as Timmy does. Jakob has a ridiculous 3000...That Timmy boy can only dream of
no nonsense please wrote:
gsjeljdhebdmd wrote:
What does Jakob have to gain by heating things up? As long as the pace is reasonable he will torch everyone else, but it doesn’t really matter whether they run 3:28 or 3:33, he’s not catching Tim. He is well behind over 800m (1:43 vs 1:46) and hasn’t shown 3:26 - 3:27 ability like Tim has.
The 5k will be interesting. It feels weird saying this but I don’t see how Cheptegei can win over guys like Barega and Kiplimo unless the pace is absurdly fast. He doesn’t seem to have the finishing ability of past record holders and Olympic champions.
I agree with your assessment that both records have a good chance of falling and wouldn’t be surprised to see the 10k record go as well.
I see you're a Timmy fanboy and this is funny stuff. Lol, I don't think Timmy boy has shown 3:26-3-27 speed either being that his PR is 3:28.... actually only .2 seconds faster than Jakob. You try to make it sound like he's something special but he sure ain't. Jakob has likely closed the gap already.
Also, El G has an 800pr of 1:47. Foolish foolish little one
If betting on the guy who’s dominated the 1500 for the last few years and has NEVER lost to Jakob in a race makes me a fanboy then yeah, I’m a fanboy.
Tim has absolutely shown 3:26 - 3:27 ability. He’s run 3:28 consistently with all kinds of splits (remember in Lausanne he opened in a ridiculous 1:49 and held on for the meet record) and soloed a 3:29 in Doha.
Please don’t bring up El G’s 1:47. It has nothing to do with this discussion and everyone with a brain knows he was good for at least 1:43 anyway.
Too difficult to predict the outcome of a race that could turn out so many ways. What if they just go out like they did at Rio in 2016 in the 1500? Won't be any record at that slow pace. Same thing could happen in the 5000. My point is it's just to difficult to predict that any type of record will be broken.
gsjeljdhebdmd wrote:
no nonsense please wrote:
I see you're a Timmy fanboy and this is funny stuff. Lol, I don't think Timmy boy has shown 3:26-3-27 speed either being that his PR is 3:28.... actually only .2 seconds faster than Jakob. You try to make it sound like he's something special but he sure ain't. Jakob has likely closed the gap already.
Also, El G has an 800pr of 1:47. Foolish foolish little one
If betting on the guy who’s dominated the 1500 for the last few years and has NEVER lost to Jakob in a race makes me a fanboy then yeah, I’m a fanboy.
Tim has absolutely shown 3:26 - 3:27 ability. He’s run 3:28 consistently with all kinds of splits (remember in Lausanne he opened in a ridiculous 1:49 and held on for the meet record) and soloed a 3:29 in Doha.
Please don’t bring up El G’s 1:47. It has nothing to do with this discussion and everyone with a brain knows he was good for at least 1:43 anyway.
Please. You're the moran that started throwing in pointless 800 times. Don't bring up theoretical crap about someone's ability here. Timmy is a3:28 runner. That's it. If El G could run faster than 1:47 then he could. I can just as easily say Jakob is actually good for 1:42.
People like you are saying Jakob is a 13 low runner when he's run a 7:27 flat, indicating at least a 12:48, yet to you he's just a 13:02 runner at best. Don't BS me.
IS MAK DADDY A THREAT?
no nonsense please wrote:
I can just as easily say Jakob is actually good for 1:42.
You are dreaming.
Where is this 1:43 in 800m in this official page?
https://worldathletics.org/athletes/norway/jakob-ingebrigtsen-14653717I don't see it anywhere.
Do you know that with 1:43 in 800m we can a potential World Championship medalist?
If Jakob made it to a final of 800m world championship, I bow with my hat.
Kiplimo will be in 19 May at Golden Spike/Zlata Tretra to chase my Olympic qualification in 10000.
no nonsense please wrote:
gsjeljdhebdmd wrote:
If betting on the guy who’s dominated the 1500 for the last few years and has NEVER lost to Jakob in a race makes me a fanboy then yeah, I’m a fanboy.
Tim has absolutely shown 3:26 - 3:27 ability. He’s run 3:28 consistently with all kinds of splits (remember in Lausanne he opened in a ridiculous 1:49 and held on for the meet record) and soloed a 3:29 in Doha.
Please don’t bring up El G’s 1:47. It has nothing to do with this discussion and everyone with a brain knows he was good for at least 1:43 anyway.
Please. You're the moran that started throwing in pointless 800 times. Don't bring up theoretical crap about someone's ability here. Timmy is a3:28 runner. That's it. If El G could run faster than 1:47 then he could. I can just as easily say Jakob is actually good for 1:42.
People like you are saying Jakob is a 13 low runner when he's run a 7:27 flat, indicating at least a 12:48, yet to you he's just a 13:02 runner at best. Don't BS me.
You’re either trolling or just stupid. Either way there is no point conversing with you.