STEVE THE ADDICT^^^^^^"""""""" wrote:
Yes it does. Anyone who makes the final could be considered a medal threat. There's a lot of medal threats. Just depends on who shows up in the moment. Knight should just stay relaxed and let the others do the work while sticking close and try to out kick them for a medal.
Wow!
Great advice, so insightful. Do you coach?
God of Wine wrote:
And just so you can educate yourself, as I live in the world of data.. his 3:33 is superior to his 13:09...
https://www.worldathletics.org/athletes/canada/justyn-knight-14603387
So you don’t think he is ready to run faster than 13:09 this year?
Lenny Leonard wrote:
God of Wine wrote:
And just so you can educate yourself, as I live in the world of data.. his 3:33 is superior to his 13:09...
https://www.worldathletics.org/athletes/canada/justyn-knight-14603387Some data for Mr. Dionysus here:
Bronze medal times for 5000m at Olympics/WC with the runner's 1500m PR at the time:
2019 - 13:01 - 3:40
2017 - 13:33 - 3:39
2016 - 13:04 - NT (7:30 3k)
2015 -13:51 - NT (7:30 3k)
His 1500m is better based on points, but that has nothing to do with championship racing. He should be a sub-13 guy, but he doesn't even have to be to medal.
Safe to say that ALL medalists will be sub 13:00 guys. Being in the low 3:30's (3:49-3:52 mile) for the 1500m is essential, and being able to close in 52-53.
quarantine me wrote:
Uhhhhh, lol. He is slower than Fisher, Scott, McGorty & Klecker. He wouldn't even make the final. 5000 is really packed now with talent. No chance.
McGorty looks like is going to jump into steeplechase since he felt he has no chance in the 5000.
Knight has even less of a chance.
The funny thing about this post is that Knight not only is better than all these guys, and has spanked them several times, these guys you listed will never win an international medal at worlds or the Olympics while JK at least has an outside chance to do that. Your post is appalling.
oh wow wow wow wrote:
quarantine me wrote:
Uhhhhh, lol. He is slower than Fisher, Scott, McGorty & Klecker. He wouldn't even make the final. 5000 is really packed now with talent. No chance.
McGorty looks like is going to jump into steeplechase since he felt he has no chance in the 5000.
Knight has even less of a chance.
Knight ran his 5k pr 2 years ago. The others ran theirs this year. Knights 1500 pr is the fastest out of those you mentioned. His 1500 indicates that he is ready to run under 13:00.
Hehehe. And Jakob's 1500PR indicates he is ready to go under 12:30. That's not how it works buddy.
STEVE THE ADDICT^^^^^^"""""""" wrote:
quarantine me wrote:
Uhhhhh, lol. He is slower than Fisher, Scott, McGorty & Klecker. He wouldn't even make the final. 5000 is really packed now with talent. No chance.
McGorty looks like is going to jump into steeplechase since he felt he has no chance in the 5000.
Knight has even less of a chance.
The funny thing about this post is that Knight not only is better than all these guys, and has spanked them several times, these guys you listed will never win an international medal at worlds or the Olympics while JK at least has an outside chance to do that. Your post is appalling.
Funny that every single one of those guys is ACTUALLY faster in both the 5000 & 10000 than Knight. Any one of those guys has a better chance at medalling than Knight whose best event may be the 3000 in which you can't win a medal. Ignoramus.
quarantine me wrote:
oh wow wow wow wrote:
Knight ran his 5k pr 2 years ago. The others ran theirs this year. Knights 1500 pr is the fastest out of those you mentioned. His 1500 indicates that he is ready to run under 13:00.
Hehehe. And Jakob's 1500PR indicates he is ready to go under 12:30. That's not how it works buddy.
Jakobs best event is the 1500. Knights best event is the 5k. Please try harder.
Knight is definitely in the mix. The 5,000 is a stacked event, and he is the least strong of all the athletes in the medal mix besides maybe Jakob or McSweyn (who have a speed advantage). If you look at the top 3 from Doha they were all guys with massive strength (Barega, Edris, Ahmed). McSweyn, Knight, Jakob come at it with more speed but with Kimeli and Cheptegei joining the field this year there is even more likelihood it is a fast race with an extended fast finish from 600+ out.
And of course Kiplimo! Lot of 26:4x types (or faster to contend with).
quarantine me wrote:
STEVE THE ADDICT^^^^^^"""""""" wrote:
The funny thing about this post is that Knight not only is better than all these guys, and has spanked them several times, these guys you listed will never win an international medal at worlds or the Olympics while JK at least has an outside chance to do that. Your post is appalling.
Funny that every single one of those guys is ACTUALLY faster in both the 5000 & 10000 than Knight. Any one of those guys has a better chance at medalling than Knight whose best event may be the 3000 in which you can't win a medal. Ignoramus.
^Same guy who claimed Knight wasn’t bettering his 3:36 1500 PR anytime soon two months ago. Total joker.
John Wesley Harding wrote:
quarantine me wrote:
Funny that every single one of those guys is ACTUALLY faster in both the 5000 & 10000 than Knight. Any one of those guys has a better chance at medalling than Knight whose best event may be the 3000 in which you can't win a medal. Ignoramus.
^Same guy who claimed Knight wasn’t bettering his 3:36 1500 PR anytime soon two months ago. Total joker.
Yeah he seems like some guy who went to college around the same time as Knight and got smoked by him and was jealous Knight won ncaa titles because JK was way more "talented." He needs to address his inner animosity through counseling.
oh wow wow wow wrote:
He obviously has wheels. The question is if he has the strength to be with those top east-African guys with 400 to go. At this point I would not be surprised if he is able to come in as a dark horse and finish 3rd.
He is good but doesn't have the finish...
oh wow wow wow wrote:
quarantine me wrote:
Hehehe. And Jakob's 1500PR indicates he is ready to go under 12:30. That's not how it works buddy.
Jakobs best event is the 1500. Knights best event is the 5k. Please try harder.
If Knights best event is the 5k then he's in a heap of trouble. Also, Jakobs best events are 1500 & 3000. He's in the top 9 all time in both.
John Wesley Harding wrote:
quarantine me wrote:
Funny that every single one of those guys is ACTUALLY faster in both the 5000 & 10000 than Knight. Any one of those guys has a better chance at medalling than Knight whose best event may be the 3000 in which you can't win a medal. Ignoramus.
^Same guy who claimed Knight wasn’t bettering his 3:36 1500 PR anytime soon two months ago. Total joker.
You're the same dooche that insulted other NCAA runners when Knight won a couple of NCAA races. You claimed then that he will easily be the top distance runner in NA and likely win medals. What happened to that?? Talk about joker.
quarantine me wrote:
oh wow wow wow wrote:
Jakobs best event is the 1500. Knights best event is the 5k. Please try harder.
If Knights best event is the 5k then he's in a heap of trouble. Also, Jakobs best events are 1500 & 3000. He's in the top 9 all time in both.
Keep this same energy when Knight runs 12:55 bud.
quarantine me wrote:
John Wesley Harding wrote:
^Same guy who claimed Knight wasn’t bettering his 3:36 1500 PR anytime soon two months ago. Total joker.
You're the same dooche that insulted other NCAA runners when Knight won a couple of NCAA races. You claimed then that he will easily be the top distance runner in NA and likely win medals. What happened to that?? Talk about joker.
I don't remember JWH ever saying as much. I do know that JK has a world final appearance already, and now a shiny new PR.
quarantine me wrote:
He wouldn't even make the final.
Making the final is always tough, and there are certainly no guarantees. But Knight made the final at the last WCs, so it seems a little bizarre to suggest that he's not good enough to make the final.
A 3:33, on its own, isn't really an indication that someone would be a medal contender over 5,000. But a 3:33 for a guy who was already a Worlds finalist at 5,000 back when he was running 3:36 is a bit different. Certainly an encouraging sign, unless you happen to be a poster with a bizarre pathological hatred of Knight.
quarantine me wrote:
STEVE THE ADDICT^^^^^^"""""""" wrote:
The funny thing about this post is that Knight not only is better than all these guys, and has spanked them several times, these guys you listed will never win an international medal at worlds or the Olympics while JK at least has an outside chance to do that. Your post is appalling.
Funny that every single one of those guys is ACTUALLY faster in both the 5000 & 10000 than Knight. Any one of those guys has a better chance at medalling than Knight whose best event may be the 3000 in which you can't win a medal. Ignoramus.
Fisher, Scott, McGorty & Klecker ran their PR two months ago. Justyn ran his PR in 2019 when his 1500m PB was slower. This isn't a fair comparison. Justyn is running Gateshead 5,000m next. We'll have our answer for his 5,000m fitness soon.
Why is there any argument here? Justyn Knight just was rabbited to a 3:33 1500m. It was impressive and a good sign for him. That is all. No need for argument.
Petters wrote:
Why is there any argument here? Justyn Knight just was rabbited to a 3:33 1500m. It was impressive and a good sign for him. That is all. No need for argument.
Because someone fragile got their feelings hurt about alleged slights to other NCAA runners when Knight was winning titles, apparently.
Fisher and Knight being good aren't mutually exclusive.