It's a freakin' movie, not a training video. What's a real runner look like or run like? Ikaanga, Bachelor, Bordin, Spence, Jones, Zatopek, Nurmi, Ryun? Guess what -- every running movie has guys that are too fat, too slow, too awkward, etc. That's why it's not just archived video. I doubt it will win any awards, but some of you seem to have glued yourselves to the TV, waiting for the first misstep so you could pounce with your encyclopedic running knowledge and jeweler's eye.
Exactly. You knew all the running nerds were just poised ready for attack the moment they see a flaw. Of course, I'm not one to talk. I would have done the same thing but I didnt get to see the flick.
I agree. It makes you wonder why ESPN even went through the trouble making this rather well done movie when the people that should be most enjoying it can't look past a few technical issues. To all you people that can't stop complaining: pull you're f-ing finger out and realize that there is more to life than running. Making a running movie is incredibly difficult and f-you if you can't appreciate what you've got.
I liked it.
But seriously. That movie sucked.
Its not per se that the movie's actors sucked or that it was poorly developed, it never followed Roger's book. Also, they portrayed a love movie dynamic in the movie which is rarely mentioned in his book. I can't wait until the British version of the film comes out; it will be much better than ESPn's version.
Often movies like this are made for the masses, not the few of us that run competitively. This is no different than the networks showing 80% "stories" and 20% competition at the olympics. It pisses off the few that are watching for the competition, but the masses (that would be normally watching a reality shows, sitcoms, or dramas) are oblivious.
Lorenzo the Maginident - "every running movie has guys that are too fat, too slow, too awkward, etc."
Not true. In WITHOUT LIMITS, Viren is played by Pat Porter, looking neither fat, nor slow, nor awkward. A 28:00 10k guy played Ian Stewart, and a 1500m OlyTrials qualifier played Gammoudi. It CAN be done, if the director/producer cares enough to pay attention to such trivial details as, you know, making it actually look like a real runner out there running.
it is possible to make a running movie exciting for the masses and still satisfying to the atheletes: just look at seabiscuit. all it will take is for a decent director and a decent script to meet up (probably based on a book like seabiscuit was, i.e. once a runner, the perfect distance, etc.)
and before anyone bashes me, i know it was based loosely on a book, so was without limits and pre, and they all pretty much sucked. i said a good director and script (maybe one written by and actual runner).
JRunnerJ wrote:
Lorenzo the Maginident - "every running movie has guys that are too fat, too slow, too awkward, etc."
Not true. In WITHOUT LIMITS, Viren is played by Pat Porter, looking neither fat, nor slow, nor awkward. A 28:00 10k guy played Ian Stewart, and a 1500m OlyTrials qualifier played Gammoudi. It CAN be done, if the director/producer cares enough to pay attention to such trivial details as, you know, making it actually look like a real runner out there running.
Are you seriously using WITHOUT LIMITS as a gold standard for running movies? Because that is hands down the worst running movie that I have seen. Tom Cruise was some sort of producer and for awhile was going to play Pre himself. That should tell you all you need to know about the team behind WITHOUT LIMITS.
Are you seriously using WITHOUT LIMITS as a gold standard for running movies? Because that is hands down the worst running movie that I have seen. Tom Cruise was some sort of producer and for awhile was going to play Pre himself. That should tell you all you need to know about the team behind WITHOUT LIMITS.
completly agree. I like the first Pre and I am 17! Most people my age like Without Limits but that s*** sucked.
While Pre had its moments and was more true to the story, Without Limits was by far a more entertaining movie. It was funnier, more polished, and use some interesting effects to jazz up the race scenes. I watched Pre for the first time in years a few weeks ago and was surprised how cheesy it was compared to the first time I saw it. Without Limits, on the other hand, is always a great movie. In my local paper, Pre got 2 stars, Without Limits got 3, I would agree with that.