9:30- good, 9:20- great, sub 9:10- cream of the crop
9:30- good, 9:20- great, sub 9:10- cream of the crop
What about 10:16?
Thousands can break 9:30. One thousand can break 9:20. Hundreds can break 9:10.
You need to drop 10 seconds from each tier. Good college teams won't take a 9:20 senior.
12:00+ :/
11:30-12:00 JV legend. “Sub 6 Pace!!!”
11:00-11:30 Varsity scrub
10:30-11:00 avg varsity
10:00-10:30 Wins some dual meets “if I was focusing on the 3200, I’d break ten”
9:30-10:00 wins some invites, usually wins all dual meets. Can go non-small scholarship D1 if they have proportionate times.
9:15-9:30 big pimpin. Probably getting recruited by D1 schools.
9:00-9:15 extra big pimpin
-9:00 yummmmmmyyyy
As a 10:00-10:30 runner, never before have I never been so offended by something I one hundred percent agree with.
Bower Woman wrote:
Thousands can break 9:30. One thousand can break 9:20. Hundreds can break 9:10.
You need to drop 10 seconds from each tier. Good college teams won't take a 9:20 senior.
The problem with the last sentence is that most good college teams have filled out their squads before the senior track seasons. Good college teams expect the kids they recruit to be sub 9:20 senior year, but they will have signed them off junior year track and XC and maybe a few meets senior year.
CopperRunner wrote:
12:00+ :/
11:30-12:00 JV legend. “Sub 6 Pace!!!”
11:00-11:30 Varsity scrub
10:30-11:00 avg varsity
10:00-10:30 Wins some dual meets “if I was focusing on the 3200, I’d break ten”
9:30-10:00 wins some invites, usually wins all dual meets. Can go non-small scholarship D1 if they have proportionate times.
9:15-9:30 big pimpin. Probably getting recruited by D1 schools.
9:00-9:15 extra big pimpin
-9:00 yummmmmmyyyy
This is the answer.
It was intentional to show that the time is not great for high school. Good programs won't take a kid who runs 9:20 junior year. The thread is about times for high school in any grade. So a kid who runs 9:30 junior year and 9:20 senior year is headed to D3 even though the OP thinks that 9:20 is great.
Sham 69 wrote:
What about 10:16?
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Bower Woman wrote:
It was intentional to show that the time is not great for high school. Good programs won't take a kid who runs 9:20 junior year. The thread is about times for high school in any grade. So a kid who runs 9:30 junior year and 9:20 senior year is headed to D3 even though the OP thinks that 9:20 is great.
So that’s actually objectively not true. Lots of 9:40 and even some 9:50 guys at the D1 level.
I know someone that got money to a mid-major D1 with 1:58-4:26-9:51
They either lied to you or were confused about where the discount came from.
One guy I know got recruited to a service academy with 4:2low and 9:3high PRs.
Which school? I will call the coach tomorrow to see how much he offers to two of my juniors who have run 4:18 and 4:22.
Just2CUCry wrote:
As a 10:00-10:30 runner, never before have I never been so offended by something I one hundred percent agree with.
Lmao I feel like I really nailed this one. Happy you can relate. I’ve heard that phrase so many times, and back in highschool I was very much guilty of using it myself.
extra big pimpin wrote:
One guy I know got recruited to a service academy with 4:2low and 9:3high PRs.
He was also running less than 20 mpw as well - coaches really like to see undeveloped talent and are willing to take in slower runners with lots of room for improvement.
Bower Woman wrote:
Which school? I will call the coach tomorrow to see how much he offers to two of my juniors who have run 4:18 and 4:22.
I’m unwilling to share the exact school, as id like to keep my friend anonymous, but if your runners are willing to move out to the Rockies, you should get in contact with coaches in the Big Sky Conference along with RMAC. I have another friend that ran sub 4:20 along with solid state level XC results that received enough money that it was reasonable enough for him to move out of state to attend the D1 he is attending.
In our backyard and no offers of any money, not even books. I have had many guys over the past 10 years who have gone sub 4:20/9:20 junior year and only got walk-on spots in mid majors. Most P5s told them they had to run 4:15/9:10 to get a spot. I knew that you wouldn't provide a school name. I don't understand your point about being anonymous. Are runners in the NCAA anonymous? I can pull up TFRRs and see the names of all NCAA runners who competed this year. I can list the names of all of the runners from the Big Sky in my response. Does that mean your friend is no longer anonymous?
You knew I wouldn’t provide a school name because I already refused to provide the name of the athlete or the school. I almost feel like you think you’ve in some way shape or form backed me into a corner, when it’s really just not my place to start throwing around names and who gave who scholarships. It’s private information that usually isn’t appropriate to share, especially on a message board that is known for toxicity.
Are you sitting around waiting for offers to come? Are you doing the reaching out for your athletes? Does your school have a reputation that makes your athletes harder to recruit?
I guarantee you both of your athletes have the potential to get small amounts of money at D1s. Probably not any P5s, but lower tier and some mid-major yes.
Varsity: good.
All conference: very good.
State qualifier: great.
State placer: elite.
I really don't care about who gets D1 money at a top 30 distance program. I don't see how that is meaningful and it only diminishes accomplishments and the value of persons participating in sport.
Lots of power 5 schools have walk on standards of 9:20. Considering that I'd say...
12< awful
11-12 bad
10:30-10:59 ok
10:00-10:29 average
9:40-9:59 above average
9:20-9:39 very solid runner
9:20-9:00 amazing
sub 9 top of the top.