Joshua Cheptegei is SUSPICIOUS

Maybe he's just in worse shape right now. He was probably peaking for his WR, while he's probably not trying to peak rn.

Just curious though, what should he be able to run?

Killeriott wrote:

Joshua ran a 12:35 5000m which meant he was running liken 3 and 1/3 1500m avg 3:46.6 and yet he cannot easily run faster than 3:37 for 1500m. He should be able to EASILY run 3:37. It makes me think he is taking PEDs.

You don't say? Sub 12:40 5000 is hard? The only other times it was done was during height of EPO?

Rocket Mann wrote:

Maybe he's just in worse shape right now. He was probably peaking for his WR, while he's probably not trying to peak rn.

Just curious though, what should he be able to run?

Well you might be correct him being in worse shape now BUT in 12:35 shape he should be able to run 3:33 for sure, as he is running 3:46 x 3.333 with no rest.

Fanboys were claiming Cheptegi can run 3:27 no problem. Now you see how slow he is in a 1500. Exposed..

chitty chin wrote:

Fanboys were claiming Cheptegi can run 3:27 no problem. Now you see how slow he is in a 1500. Exposed..

Anyone saying 3:27 is a moron, but so are you if you think he’s in the same shape now as he was when he ran 12:35. I’d expect him to run a little slower than Bekele when in shape, say 3:33 - 3:34.

Managed by Global Sports Communication whose founder and CEO is the infamous Jos Hermans. Funny how that company starts finding World Record talent in Uganda just as testing is finally brought in in Kenya and to a lesser extent Ethiopia.

Killeriott wrote:

Joshua ran a 12:35 5000m which meant he was running liken 3 and 1/3 1500m avg 3:46.6 and yet he cannot easily run faster than 3:37 for 1500m. He should be able to EASILY run 3:37. It makes me think he is taking PEDs.

If he was taking PEDs, shouldn't that mean he is able to EASILY run 3:37?

Coevett wrote:

Managed by Global Sports Communication whose founder and CEO is the infamous Jos Hermans. Funny how that company starts finding World Record talent in Uganda just as testing is finally brought in in Kenya and to a lesser extent Ethiopia.

What makes Jos Hermens "infamous" rather than "famous" for finding and managing some of the best talented athletes of all time?

1/10

rekrunner wrote:

Killeriott wrote:

Joshua ran a 12:35 5000m which meant he was running liken 3 and 1/3 1500m avg 3:46.6 and yet he cannot easily run faster than 3:37 for 1500m. He should be able to EASILY run 3:37. It makes me think he is taking PEDs.

If he was taking PEDs, shouldn't that mean he is able to EASILY run 3:37?

As per usual you are out of your league here. PEDs don’t necessarily mean he will run a 10.2 100m. How silly are you as you attempt to deny drug usage in sport? You end up as the biggest advocate of PEDs here. Yes I said advocate. Due to your being such a relentless apologist, your are a de facto advocate of PED usage.

Killeriott wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

If he was taking PEDs, shouldn't that mean he is able to EASILY run 3:37?

As per usual you are out of your league here. PEDs don’t necessarily mean he will run a 10.2 100m. How silly are you as you attempt to deny drug usage in sport? You end up as the biggest advocate of PEDs here. Yes I said advocate. Due to your being such a relentless apologist, your are a de facto advocate of PED usage.

Yikes, pot calling the kettle.

Race was at moderate altitude in Uganda and probably not a real focus-- I'm guessing it wasn't much of a payday if any.

Dope or not, I wouldn't make sweeping conclusions from a season opener.

Killeriott wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

If he was taking PEDs, shouldn't that mean he is able to EASILY run 3:37?

As per usual you are out of your league here. PEDs don’t necessarily mean he will run a 10.2 100m. How silly are you as you attempt to deny drug usage in sport? You end up as the biggest advocate of PEDs here. Yes I said advocate. Due to your being such a relentless apologist, your are a de facto advocate of PED usage.

"PEDs" is an ambiguous term. PEDs can mean 100 things to 100 people. Some PEDs are even WADA legal, so PEDs doesn't seem like a useful term.

If we carry your thought just a little further, PEDs don't necessarily mean he will run a 12:35 5000m either.

The rest is just a smokescreen to avoid talking about performance:

- I never deny "drug usage in sport"; I talk about performance, not prevalence

- I never advocate breaking any rules; I would only advocate PEDs that don't break any rules or harm the health of any athlete

- I never apologize for anyone breaking the rules

Killeriott wrote:

Joshua ran a 12:35 5000m which meant he was running liken 3 and 1/3 1500m avg 3:46.6 and yet he cannot easily run faster than 3:37 for 1500m. He should be able to EASILY run 3:37. It makes me think he is taking PEDs.

Go look at what Brazier ran in the 1500 just now no one is in peak shape dumb ass

you think like a doper wrote:

Killeriott wrote:

Elaborate instead of throwing out cliches that do not apply.

You have the doper's mindset. You are projecting it onto other athletes. You don't understand that people like you are advocating the PED concept. You don't realise you are part of the problem.

This ^^

Correction of your post: I have the doping detector’s mindset. You are implying that law enforcement is promoting crime by being super aware of crime. This makes little sense.

ImpaIa31 wrote:

you think like a doper wrote:

You have the doper's mindset. You are projecting it onto other athletes. You don't understand that people like you are advocating the PED concept. You don't realise you are part of the problem.

This ^^

Read my above post. It is interesting how simple minds tend to agree with each other.

Killeriottt wrote:

Correction of your post: I have the doping detector’s mindset. You are implying that law enforcement is promoting crime by being super aware of crime. This makes little sense.

Thinking like a doper ^^^^^^^

you think like a doper wrote:

Killeriottt wrote:

Correction of your post: I have the doping detector’s mindset. You are implying that law enforcement is promoting crime by being super aware of crime. This makes little sense.

Thinking like a doper ^^^^^^^

I suppose the best law enforcement are able to think like criminals. Yes this is true. If you cannot do this then please leave the business to the adults.