Saw their guys raced at a twilight 3200 meet. Many of their returning runners for next year could barely break 10. Far cry from the days when they'd have a handful of runners in the 9:10-15 range and a bunch of guys under 9:30. Looks like their depth is very poor and unless they improve they'll be lucky to make NXN.
NJ has been hit hard with Covid. Perhaps it effected them too.
Season just started give it a few weeks.
Plus it was cool and real windy in NJ yesterday
Season did just start but it wasn’t really windy, I raced at the meet yesterday
This is ridiculous, they had 7 under 10:00 and 8th 10:00
They'll round into better shape too
NXN is cross country, not track.
Next year they return 6 guys that ran under 16:15 for 5k last fall.
Maybe those guys are better at XC than at track.
Here is what they return:
Christian Brothers Academy (NJ)
1) Jack Falkowski 15:50.00
2) Lucas Ward 15:58.00
3) Kyle Hill 16:01.00
4) Kiernan Leary 16:02.00
5) Nicholas Sullivan 16:10.00
Average Time: 16:00.20 Total Time: 1:20:01.00 1-5 Split: 20.00
6) Matthew Mastroly 16:15.00
7) Jack Moran 16:32.30
Also look at their 1-6 split. 25 seconds. Very small.
For 15:50-16:15 guys just under 10 is a fine early season race. They'll have guys around 9:30 by seasons end is my guess.
Alan
These responses are laughable. Blaming COVID? The whole country has to deal with covid, not just New Jersey and CBA. The pandemic hasn't seemed to stop Hobbs Kessler, who is from a state that is the worst for covid in the nation right now. Wind? Please... these night of 3200 races have heats that are tightly packed. Drafting certainly helps. Let's be very generous and say the wind cost them 10 seconds (it didn't). Even then those times are nothing special. Those returning 5k times aren't very good either, they were probably run on courses that were short, pancake flat, or both. Come to me when they run those times on a real cross country course. During the CBA glory days they'd have like 10 guys under 9:30 at this point in the season without the new super spikes that today's runners have. Just admit it, CBA is FINISHED unless they get transfers.
XC PRs are always on pancake flat or suspect courses.....who cares?
That many boys dropping early season 3200m times under 10:00 is good. We'll see most of em at or under 9:30 by the end of the year I bet.
Also who cares about comparing this team to teams long ago. Again, who cares man?
My senior year....we're talking 25 years ago....I ran exactly two 3200m under 9:40....a 9:38 and 9:32 in my last two races. The others? Just under 10 to 9:45.
Let em just race man!
Aka
What are the Northeast Teams that are going to keep CBA from making it to NXN next year?
What do your times from back in the day have to do with any of this? A 9:40 3200 is very mediocre these days. 3200 times keep getting faster just like inflation continues to rise over time. What don't you get? CBA 3200 average times keep getting slower while the national average keeps getting faster. CBA is getting worse while on average times are getting better. Stop using your cinder track times from back in the day to make a point. CBA is done for. They'll win the conference at best.
shelloni65 wrote:
What do your times from back in the day have to do with any of this? A 9:40 3200 is very mediocre these days. 3200 times keep getting faster just like inflation continues to rise over time. What don't you get? CBA 3200 average times keep getting slower while the national average keeps getting faster. CBA is getting worse while on average times are getting better. Stop using your cinder track times from back in the day to make a point. CBA is done for. They'll win the conference at best.
Ok I don't know anything about CBA but I can google...
DeSousa: 9:15 last year
Santos: 9:43 last year
Sullivan: 9:40 last year
Couple more like 9:48? so far early season?
Maybe 3 sub 9:30s this year? Can DeSousa flirt with 9:00?
I dunno man seems pretty solid to me.
It's early in the weird Covid season. Come back in June.
I think they gonna be 'aight.
Alan
shelloni65 wrote:
These responses are laughable. Blaming COVID? The whole country has to deal with covid, not just New Jersey and CBA. The pandemic hasn't seemed to stop Hobbs Kessler, who is from a state that is the worst for covid in the nation right now. Wind? Please... these night of 3200 races have heats that are tightly packed. Drafting certainly helps. Let's be very generous and say the wind cost them 10 seconds (it didn't). Even then those times are nothing special. Those returning 5k times aren't very good either, they were probably run on courses that were short, pancake flat, or both. Come to me when they run those times on a real cross country course. During the CBA glory days they'd have like 10 guys under 9:30 at this point in the season without the new super spikes that today's runners have. Just admit it, CBA is FINISHED unless they get transfers.
I mentioned Covid, I'll take the heat for that remark. I dont know what rules CBA had placed upon them but where I am many school districts weren't allowed to organize any team practices. I don't know if parents at CBA allowed their kids to get together and run which is why I wrote "perhaps"
New York City finally allowed its students to practice together for an abbreviated season which starts next month.
Yes it is solid. But there are hundreds of teams across the country who are faster. CBA is a dynasty. They now are slower than random teams from Iowa.
go go away wrote:
Yes it is solid. But there are hundreds of teams across the country who are faster. CBA is a dynasty. They now are slower than random teams from Iowa.
It must also be over for Sioux City North! Defending Iowa 4A XC State Champs!.....bunch of scrubs barely breaking 10:00!!
https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/meet/414717/results/m/6/3200mThis troll attempt is amusing.
Alan
You may want to look at real stats across the country instead of relying on Athletic.net or Milesplit.
3 guys at 9:23 or better from a school in Iowa actually run in the same race in April.
Check out the 400-800-1600-3200-4x4-4x8 for this team from Iowa as compared to CBA.
Must be all the corn in that Indiana water....go Hoosiers!
https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/meet/429653/results/m/1/3200m
Wanna talk about dynasties and owning an entire state for decades? Carmel XC.
Alan
How about another? These are all random teams from Iowa in April where it is about 45 degrees most days.