Jack Daniels 4th edition - anyone read?

Is it even released yet?

Yes looks like it it out now...I'm interested

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08QCDSFVN/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0

I ordered it, thanks for the heads up. Have editions 1, 2, and 3....The 2nd edition is my favorite. Will be fun to see is much changed in this one...but review may take awhile, I"m only good for a page or two before falling asleep! I'm interest to hear the reviews too!

I swear I am not Rojo - I guess he is still sleeping.

With the choice of cover picture, I wonder if Jack addresses the new shoes in this edition.

In the Uk not released until the 1st April on Amazon

I wonder why JD choses Hall for the cover? Clearly he is not her coach.

Is that Gentleman Jack?

A chapter on altitude training. Ultra distances. Triathlon. Really ton of good content.

It is available on Kindle, hard copies come out late April.

I just started it yesterday.

I think he had Bob Kennedy on edition 1, Alan Culpepper on 2, and a Kenyan female on 3 but I don't know her name. I don't think he ever coached any of them. He did coach a whole helluva lot of top runners though. I think he just uses a good, eye-catching photo.

What was Daniels thinking, so long ago, when he messed up the naming conventions for a repetition? Changing the distance/speed of a 'repetition' does not make it an 'interval'.

It is understood in the sport that the 'interval' is the time between repetitions. Daniels sewed a lot of confusion when he chose to conflate the terms.

You sowed a lot of confusion when you used "sewed" when you should have used "sowed", as in you reap what you sow.

the chapter on Ultratraining is 95% an interview with Magdalena Lewy-Boulet!

I have the 2nd edition and think it is probably the best distance training book ever published for the general runner and coach. Some books are more technical and go deeper, but for your common reader, DRF is best. I never checked out the 3rd edition. I might pick up the 4th now that more than 15 years have passed since the 2nd edition came out.

Little bit of a tangent here, but as someone very well read on training methodology, my top three recommended reads are:

1) Daniels Running Formula

2) Running to the Top (by Arthur Lydiard)

3) Better Training for Distance Runners

If a person still wanted more, they could read something like Lore of Running by Noakes, but the three aforementioned books will give you just about everything you need to know if you study them and understand them. Hell, just sticking to Daniels VDOT tables would get most runners and coaches 90% of the way there.

We want jtupper back on LRC! wrote:

I think he had Bob Kennedy on edition 1, Alan Culpepper on 2, and a Kenyan female on 3 but I don't know her name. I don't think he ever coached any of them. He did coach a whole helluva lot of top runners though. I think he just uses a good, eye-catching photo.

The "Kenyan" woman on the third edition cover is Janet Cherobon Bawcom (2012 US Olympian), who was coached by Daniels at the time.

Should have been Daniel’s Running Fourmula

intervals versus repetitions wrote:

What was Daniels thinking, so long ago, when he messed up the naming conventions for a repetition? Changing the distance/speed of a 'repetition' does not make it an 'interval'.

It is understood in the sport that the 'interval' is the time between repetitions. Daniels sewed a lot of confusion when he chose to conflate the terms.

In 3rd ED JD said "interval training, probably the most varying in definition of all types of training" He had asked 3 runner and their coach for their definition of "interval" and got four different response so he "decided to develop my own definition based on the purpose of the type of training being carried out". I was always fuzzy on rep vs int vs whatever, so appreciate his definition and then context.

Hudson has a great book too (Run Faster)

Hello, I am really interested.

Does anyone know, if there is a full triathlon plan in the book, or is it just the running part?

Sorry for my bad english, i am from spain

Testuswr12345 wrote:

Hello, I am really interested.

Does anyone know, if there is a full triathlon plan in the book, or is it just the running part?

Sorry for my bad english, i am from spain

There is no triathlon plan.