In powerlifting, its impossible to know who has a record. For example, in the major record-keeping site for powerlifting (Powerlifting Records), the world record for a raw deadlift is 1015 pounds by Magnusson. But then we have a deadlift (Haftor did not even wear knee sleeves) of 1104 by Bjornsson and its not mentioned anywhere on the site. How is anyone to take any powerlifting record seriously?
liftingfreaks wrote:
In powerlifting, its impossible to know who has a record. For example, in the major record-keeping site for powerlifting (Powerlifting Records), the world record for a raw deadlift is 1015 pounds by Magnusson. But then we have a deadlift (Haftor did not even wear knee sleeves) of 1104 by Bjornsson and its not mentioned anywhere on the site. How is anyone to take any powerlifting record seriously?
https://www.openpowerlifting.org/records/rawhttps://www.espn.com/olympics/weightlifting/story/_/id/29126863/hafthor-bjornsson-breaks-world-record-501-kilogram-deadlift
There a different rules for a Powerlifting Deadlift vs a Strongman Deadlift.
The official Powerlifting records have to be done under the specific organization's guidelines (IPF, USAPL, etc).
Thor's wouldn't count IAW PL rules because he wasn't wearing shoes.
Alan
More proof that it's NOT the magic shoes.
Bad Wigins wrote:
More proof that it's NOT the magic shoes.
I think it's too early to say because of the pandemic and people lifting harder, etc.
One is raw one is with a dead lift suit.
paris2024hawk wrote:
One is raw one is with a dead lift suit.
And straps
paris2024hawk wrote:
One is raw one is with a dead lift suit.
Thor was wearing a deadlift suit? Looked like just a shirt.
Similarly equipped here..no shoes
liftingfreaks wrote:
paris2024hawk wrote:
One is raw one is with a dead lift suit.
Thor was wearing a deadlift suit? Looked like just a shirt.
Here are the current various records:
Standard Equipped Deadlift (with a deadlift suit and straps) – 501 kg (1,105 lb) held by Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson
Standard Raw Deadlift (no deadlift suit or straps) – 460 kg (1,014 lb) held by Benedikt Magnússon
Elephant Bar Deadlift (with straps) – 474 kg (1,045 lb) held by Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson (2019 Arnold Strongman Classic)
Hummer Tire Deadlift (with straps) – 545.2 kg (1,202 lb) held by Jean-Francois Caron (2020 Shaw Classic)
The suit doesn't help much in the DL compared to the Bench or Squat. Like 3-5% more on the DL, 20-30% on Squat, 30-40% on Bench. The suits are generally different. Thor was wearing a suit.
With a tight enough Squat or Bench suit you won't be able to squat down or lower a bar to your chest unless it has weight in it. They are literally springs lol.
Alan
Runningart2004 wrote:
liftingfreaks wrote:
Thor was wearing a deadlift suit? Looked like just a shirt.
Here are the current various records:
Standard Equipped Deadlift (with a deadlift suit and straps) – 501 kg (1,105 lb) held by Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson
Standard Raw Deadlift (no deadlift suit or straps) – 460 kg (1,014 lb) held by Benedikt Magnússon
Elephant Bar Deadlift (with straps) – 474 kg (1,045 lb) held by Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson (2019 Arnold Strongman Classic)
Hummer Tire Deadlift (with straps) – 545.2 kg (1,202 lb) held by Jean-Francois Caron (2020 Shaw Classic)
The suit doesn't help much in the DL compared to the Bench or Squat. Like 3-5% more on the DL, 20-30% on Squat, 30-40% on Bench. The suits are generally different. Thor was wearing a suit.
With a tight enough Squat or Bench suit you won't be able to squat down or lower a bar to your chest unless it has weight in it. They are literally springs lol.
Alan
The deadlift suit doesn't help much (when compared with its equivalent for squat and bench) . 'Note that 5% of 500kg still amount to around 25kg
However straps help immensely. They basically remove "grip strength" from the equation.
Under Powerlifting rules, Bjornsson max deadlift is "only" 410kg as you can see below, a (very) far cry from PL and his utltimate record.
openpowerlifting.org/u/hafthorjuliusbjornssonVery different standards wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
Here are the current various records:
Standard Equipped Deadlift (with a deadlift suit and straps) – 501 kg (1,105 lb) held by Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson
Standard Raw Deadlift (no deadlift suit or straps) – 460 kg (1,014 lb) held by Benedikt Magnússon
Elephant Bar Deadlift (with straps) – 474 kg (1,045 lb) held by Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson (2019 Arnold Strongman Classic)
Hummer Tire Deadlift (with straps) – 545.2 kg (1,202 lb) held by Jean-Francois Caron (2020 Shaw Classic)
The suit doesn't help much in the DL compared to the Bench or Squat. Like 3-5% more on the DL, 20-30% on Squat, 30-40% on Bench. The suits are generally different. Thor was wearing a suit.
With a tight enough Squat or Bench suit you won't be able to squat down or lower a bar to your chest unless it has weight in it. They are literally springs lol.
Alan
The deadlift suit doesn't help much (when compared with its equivalent for squat and bench) . 'Note that 5% of 500kg still amount to around 25kg
However straps help immensely. They basically remove "grip strength" from the equation.
Under Powerlifting rules, Bjornsson max deadlift is "only" 410kg as you can see below, a (very) far cry from PL and his utltimate record.
openpowerlifting.org/u/hafthorjuliusbjornsson
Yea those figure 8 straps are magic. Basically adding inches to your arm length, thus improving leverage.
It's all good. I still view Eddie Hall's lift as the real record since it was in an actual competition. Thor's lift was a gym lift with officials around.
Alan
liftingfreaks wrote:
Similarly equipped here..no shoes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g13CPIeY7sI
I was waiting for the face plant as he walked off
Everyone (well, the common man) now thinks Bjornsson has the WR. ESPN is much more powerful than lifting websites. ESPN does not appear to make any distinction between straps, suits, raw, etc. They just go ahead and proclaim him the WR holder in the event.
Too bad for the real WR holders. Thankfully, they can't pull this off in weightlifting, which millions watch in the Olympics and world championships. At least there is no doubt who is the best in that sport.
thor’s 501kg was done with straps which no federation allows. But OP is right that the records are confusing. Not only are there different records in each weight class for raw, sleeves, and wraps for squats, sometimes special shirts for bench, but each federation has its own records. Everyone can have a world record in powerlifting