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It must have been a short course right?
It must have been a short course right?
Lol..... you said Pidcock.
You can view it on Strava, looks like a manic GPS trace. In the UK there have been a number of ‘virtual’ competitions that were controversial through the use of loop courses like this one - running repeated small loops seems to cause GPS overcompensation. I’ve no doubt based on his cycling ability that he has a good 5k in him, however 13.25 may be a stretch based on this run!
The GPS is clearly all over the place...
So many people claim outrageous PB's even when the GPS clearly isn't what they ran. Do they just not look? Low key bothers me
Don't understand why he would try to claim this. GPS is so clearly messed up. Have to assume it's just an honest mistake and he simply has no sense of how unbelievable that time is (on a wet pavement, in a big jacket, for a non-runner).
Looks like when it wasn't spiking he was running about 3.10-15 pace. I reckon he could probably just about break 15 in better conditions.
I think a lot of people would be surprised by how (relatively) slow a lot of pro cyclists are at running. I would say something in the low 15s would still probably rank Pidcock as one of the quicker riders in the bunch.
Looks like someone flagged it by now.
I can’t understand how someone as glued to data as a cyclist is can be this ignorant of how obviously wrong the gps data is. This dude is either a grade a moron or willfully being untruthful. Either way... not a good look.
Maybe bad stats, but his power outputs on a bike are really world class.
Garbage. You don't go out to break 15 mins which is a good time for a club runner, and somehow end up running just 7 seconds off the European record for a road 5k.
He's a great athlete but to suggest he's near the level of Marc Scott is insulting
Marc Scott actually replied to a comment on Pidcock’s IG post where someone asked what he thought: “?? not legit. That is not 4.22 mile pace.”
Anyone else notice a lot of endurance athletes from other sports (tris, cyclists, etc.) lately posting strava data or youtube videos of time trials that are absurdly fast? I think almost everyone of these I've seen has been a road TT that is pretty clearly a generous GPS track but are these people so vain that they really can't just head down to the track and run real laps?
I mapped out his route with the Strava route builder (including the cooldown since he included it) and it ended up at 4.3 miles, not 5.8.
If you assume this disparity was evenly spread out, he ran 2.29 miles in the 13:25 “fast” section—which is 5:48 pace. LOL.
I'm sure it's a joke :) Just check out the pacing.
For those who don't know, Pidcock finished 2nd at the cyclocross world championships last year.
Just look at the picture he posted. NO ONE is running a 13:25 TT in a RAIN JACKET in 50 degree temperatures. Dude may be a world class cyclist but he's also a world class moron. This is equivalent to me riding my bike down a mountain at 55kph and saying I can be a world class cyclist since that's the speed pros average in a one hour TT.
yeahitsbs wrote:
I mapped out his route with the Strava route builder (including the cooldown since he included it) and it ended up at 4.3 miles, not 5.8.
If you assume this disparity was evenly spread out, he ran 2.29 miles in the 13:25 “fast” section—which is 5:48 pace. LOL.
I got 4.5 miles aka 7.2 km using google maps, which isn't the 9.3km he claimed.
non-registered user wrote:
https://www.strava.com/activities/4748319774Don't understand why he would try to claim this. GPS is so clearly messed up. Have to assume it's just an honest mistake and he simply has no sense of how unbelievable that time is (on a wet pavement, in a big jacket, for a non-runner).
Looks like when it wasn't spiking he was running about 3.10-15 pace. I reckon he could probably just about break 15 in better conditions.
I think a lot of people would be surprised by how (relatively) slow a lot of pro cyclists are at running. I would say something in the low 15s would still probably rank Pidcock as one of the quicker riders in the bunch.
He’s made his bones in cycle cross which is probably the closest transferable to 5-10k fitness. It’s a bunch of surging requires strong stabilizing muscles compared to say road cycling.
That being said he can’t run that fast.
Cyclists spend more time looking at power than speed, and this kind of error (jaggy, erratic track) doesn't happen often on the bike. Nevertheless, Pidcock should have realized at some point that he had lousy data, and that he wasn't actually running a world class time. Perhaps his ego overruled his common sense. (He is a mega-prodigy on the bike).
Anyway, it looks like the loop where he was doing much of his TT is ~1008 meters:
It's hard to tell because the GPS track is so bad, but it looks like he was running laps between 3:01 and 3:20 until he stopped. I see 4 "hot" laps totaling about 12:45 (he stopped the TT in the middle of lap 5). So, 12:45 for 4032m is 15:49 5k pace, which seems plausible.
I don't doubt that he could be a damn good runner if he wanted to, but no one accidentally runs 5km in 13:25 on a random neighborhood loop, wearing a windbreaker and trainers. Not even Jason Rexing.
yep. wrote:
Marc Scott actually replied to a comment on Pidcock’s IG post where someone asked what he thought: “?? not legit. That is not 4.22 mile pace.”
People do this to runners all the time. Every so often some soccer player will sprint a quick 40 yards and there'll be talk about how they would do in an Olympic 100m. The answer is always they'd be embarrassed. Same here. Pidcock should try and qualify for the British trials if he seriously thinks he can run 13:25. I'd love to see it and tbh, I'm not even sure GB will send more than one person to the Olympic 5k anyway
runderun wrote:
yep. wrote:
Marc Scott actually replied to a comment on Pidcock’s IG post where someone asked what he thought: “?? not legit. That is not 4.22 mile pace.”
People do this to runners all the time. Every so often some soccer player will sprint a quick 40 yards and there'll be talk about how they would do in an Olympic 100m. The answer is always they'd be embarrassed. Same here. Pidcock should try and qualify for the British trials if he seriously thinks he can run 13:25. I'd love to see it and tbh, I'm not even sure GB will send more than one person to the Olympic 5k anyway
Exactly. That is the great thing about T&F, anyone claiming World Class status is more than welcome to give it a try.
runderun wrote:
yep. wrote:
Marc Scott actually replied to a comment on Pidcock’s IG post where someone asked what he thought: “?? not legit. That is not 4.22 mile pace.”
People do this to runners all the time. Every so often some soccer player will sprint a quick 40 yards and there'll be talk about how they would do in an Olympic 100m. The answer is always they'd be embarrassed. Same here. Pidcock should try and qualify for the British trials if he seriously thinks he can run 13:25. I'd love to see it and tbh, I'm not even sure GB will send more than one person to the Olympic 5k anyway
Even if he could do 13:25 (which he can't, of course), he's a better cyclist than 13:25 standard.