Any idea what is going on with the streak lt?

Bump. I'm curious too. I'm just switching to XC flats, much cheaper + more durable.

thought pollution wrote:

Bump. I'm curious too. I'm just switching to XC flats, much cheaper + more durable.

which flats?

Nike Zoom Rival Waffle. Just got them, they're not bad. I might pick up a pair of saucony ones soon too.

thought pollution wrote:

Nike Zoom Rival Waffle. Just got them, they're not bad. I might pick up a pair of saucony ones soon too.

Thanks!

Can you run in the road in those?

Kvothe wrote:

Is nike discontinuing it, releasing new colors, or updating it? I looked for them online and could only find them at runningwarehouse, and only in a few sizes. Fortunately, they had my size. My dream would be for the original streak xc to be rereleased, but I doubt that happens. The cynic in me believes that when nike can charge 250 for a racing flat, they don't want to bother with $90 racing flats. Btw streak xc's used to retail for 55! The shoe has only gotten worse and gone up in price since then.

They stopped producing them long ago. Not because they didn't sell - they are still in extreme demand, and sold out very quickly each time they were available somewhere!

The reason is simple - Nike is a profit-oriented business. The LT4 is a damn fast shoe. What other shoes does Nike have in this segment? Zoom Fly, Vaporfly, Alphafly, etc. Nike wants to sell the expensive shoes, especially now that they are available everywhere. They'd rather sell a Zoom Fly for $150 than a LT4 for $50.

What needs to happen now, is that another shoe manufacturer catches onto that and starts producing a shoe similar to the LT4. Then people will buy that instead of the Zoom Fly, and be happy again.

Absolutely!

There are several sketchers that have similar specs. GoMebSpeed, GoMebRazor, SpeedElite, Vanish.

Give the Sketchers VANISH a look.

4mm Drop

5ounces

I found the Skechers shoes too soft for fast (5k and under) efforts, whereas the LT can handle anything. The Speed Elite and Razor Elite might be better because of the plate?

There are still some comparable shoes out there -- Saucony Type A9 and Fastwitch, NB1400 & 1500, Adidas Takumi Sen, Reebok Run Fast Pro -- at least for now. But I think the writing is on the wall that shoe cos are going to phase out their $100 flats or "upgrade" them to $150 with a big slab of soft foam.

Kvothe wrote:

The cynic in me believes that when nike can charge 250 for a racing flat, they don't want to bother with $90 racing flats.

Nike's $250 shoe is not a Racing Flat, it is a Marathon Racer. There is a distinct difference between the two mainly in midsole density & stack height.

LateRunnerPhil wrote:

What needs to happen now, is that another shoe manufacturer catches onto that and starts producing a shoe similar to the LT4. Then people will buy that instead of the Zoom Fly, and be happy again.

Zoom Fly has nothing to do with the LT4. They are completely different shoes. One is low stack low drop, the other high stack moderate drop plus 2ounces. Only someone truly brainwashed by Nike's marketing would blindly move to the Fly if the LT4 was not available.

There are plenty of comparable racing flats out there to the LT. No-one needs to "catch on", Others have been making these shoes for years and are continuing to do so with innovative designs to elevate speed beyond the classic racing flat with hi-tech uppers & midsoles. Look away from the bright nike swoosh and you will see.

Yes, their daily trainers that are fairly popular have a nice squish. But dont forget, just like others, Sketchers midsole foams can vary with density per shoe design. Just because it is labeled hyperburst or ultraflight doesn't mean it is the same as a previous shoe that you ran with that logo on its foam. I like the multitester reviews where at the end they compare to other models to give you a point of reference. There is no substitute for lacing em up and seeing for yourself though!

Yep, All good ones.

I disagree.

1. These are two different target audiences to market too.

2. Innovative designs are activly being released like the Sketchers & Reboks.

3. Plenty of people are branded to the NB's/Saucony's/Adidas that you mentioned to the point that their fav shoe is basically on subscription.

I really hope that Nike does not discontinue the Streak LT.

If you refer the recent shoe approval list, Nike has a prototype called Zoom Streakfly. I think that this is the ZoomX racing flat. Might probably replace the Streak.

Are they already prepared to remove the LTs together with the normal Streak?

NotRadio wrote:

I really hope that Nike does not discontinue the Streak LT.

If you refer the recent shoe approval list, Nike has a prototype called Zoom Streakfly. I think that this is the ZoomX racing flat. Might probably replace the Streak.

Are they already prepared to remove the LTs together with the normal Streak?

I sure as heck hope not.

Here is evidence of the streakfly's existence though. It appears that it is a high drop shoe between 26 and 39 mm stack height.

I don't know what I'd do if the streak lt went off the market. I've tried so many racing flats and even light trainers and none grip my foot right without feeling like blocks when I try to run. If its a 4-8mm drop shoe under 7 oz, I've probably tried it.

The streak xc and lt series isn't perfect, but everything else I've been able to use has already been discontinued years ago.

I have 3 pairs nib in the closet and hopefully I'll be able to find pairs on ebay for a while. I'm pretty nervous as the disappearance of this shoe could really hurt my running.

ViperDom wrote:

[quote]Kvothe wrote:

There are plenty of comparable racing flats out there to the LT. No-one needs to "catch on", Others have been making these shoes for years and are continuing to do so with innovative designs to elevate speed beyond the classic racing flat with hi-tech uppers & midsoles. Look away from the bright nike swoosh and you will see.

I've tried the a4, takumi sen, fastwitch, hanzo, and bekoji. None of these fit my feet quite right, the problem is too much or too little room in the toe box or the grip on the heel not being tight enough.

The wave cruise, endorphin, and universe fit ok, not as good as the streak lt and I may try to get more of those from Asia if they're still made after the streak is unavailable in my size.

In the past I've used the new balance 1600, brooks t3-t6 (t7 had too high a drop), adizero rocket, and some new balance flat I forget the name of. I'd say the brooks t3 and t4 and adizero rocket were better than the streak lt, but there is nothing on the market like them.

Kvothe wrote:

Is nike discontinuing it, releasing new colors, or updating it? I looked for them online and could only find them at runningwarehouse, and only in a few sizes. Fortunately, they had my size. My dream would be for the original streak xc to be rereleased, but I doubt that happens. The cynic in me believes that when nike can charge 250 for a racing flat, they don't want to bother with $90 racing flats. Btw streak xc's used to retail for 55! The shoe has only gotten worse and gone up in price since then.

1) I would have expected a Zoom X traditional racer (reasonably thin, Streak-like) years ago. Like Reebok's, which arrived years ago.

2) But OK, for whatever reason they didn't do this and kept selling the Streak.

3) But now they might have gotten rid of the Streak? I think that this might be the first time since the freakin' Nike Eagle (the original "modern racing shoe" circa 1980) that Nike doesn't have a traditional thin racer. They thought that there was a market for this for decades (and even when the also had the much beefier Mariah and its successors). And, as noted, other companies still think that there is a market for such a shoe. As noted by others, many runners - particularly young? - aren't going to buy a clown shoe instead of a non-existent Streak. They're going to buy from another company.

And got it, they probably make less on a Streak. But that is and has been true for lots of shoes (and products of all kinds) for.....ever. Simply saying that they make more on a given product doesn't explain everything. Not even close. By that logic, every company would only have a singele, high-priced version of anything.

Hard to figure. It would be interesting to know Nike's thinking on it.

Supposedly, the new Nike "Streakfly" will be released around the time of the US Trials. I haven't seen anyone running around Portland or Beaverton lately wearing such a shoe though.

World Athletics has a maximum shoe thickness of 25mm, so I don’t see why there wouldn’t still be non-spiked racing flats like the Streak LTs. It’s disappointing traditional, thinner road flats have disappeared. Waiting for carbon plated shoes to get lighter and thinner (if that’s ideal/possible).

How about this one...

https://www.asics.com/us/en-us/sortiemagic-rp-5/p/ANA_1093A091-100.html?cgid=AA10401000

What are some of the Nike sponsored runners using for 5k road races?

Yeah, I know, COVID, but aren’t they doing track workouts in flats of some kind?