Oregon 9:19.42 in the DMR at the Razorback Invite. They DESTROYED the CR by 5+ seconds and just ran the fast in world indoor his

ben crawforde wrote:

With a 3:54 anchor by (I think) Cooper Teare.

3:54.6

249.89

47.29

147.65

354.61

919.42

That 3:54 was something like 60/60/58/56

Dem boys we’re moving.

Watched the race. Charlie Hunter won it for them on the 8 leg. Made a huge move w around either 200 or 400 to go and never looked back. It made Kiptoo(IA state anchor) have to catch up and Cooper put the burners on him around 600 to go. Teare definitely negative split the first and last 800 as well

We are going to pretend like the shoes haven’t starting changing the ncaa? Their run tonight was strong, but was it record worthy? Shoes. And within a year everyone will have them and no one will care about these “great” times anymore. Let’s get back to competition.

safe to say Ben Thomas is the best middle distance coach in the country and it's not even close.

He makes the Powells look like elementary school gym teachers.

Hejendo76 wrote:

Watched the race. Charlie Hunter won it for them on the 8 leg. Made a huge move w around either 200 or 400 to go and never looked back. It made Kiptoo(IA state anchor) have to catch up and Cooper put the burners on him around 600 to go. Teare definitely negative split the first and last 800 as well

Charlie Hunter had a great 8 leg but I'm more surprised that the Peralta kid on the 4 ran 47. He's ran 1:48 once or twice, but I would've guessed he ran 49ish.

driving me crazy wrote:

safe to say Ben Thomas is the best middle distance coach in the country and it's not even close.

He makes the Powells look like elementary school gym teachers.

Cooper Teare said in a Podcast once that the Oregon athletes realized how good of a coach Thomas was when their teammate Jackson Mestler ran 3:59, even though his previous best was closer to 4:08.

It wasn't the shoes, we knew this team was loaded last year and had the potential to do this. Peralta is one of the top 800 runners in addition to Teare and Hunter running 3:55 indoors together last year. No surprises, just really good coaching and a lot of talent.

rocknroller wrote:

We are going to pretend like the shoes haven’t starting changing the ncaa? Their run tonight was strong, but was it record worthy? Shoes. And within a year everyone will have them and no one will care about these “great” times anymore. Let’s get back to competition.

Yep, the shoes happen to matter. Too bad nobody gets to decide when they are born and what their parents or themselves can afford.

Does anyone remember what I said on the podcast when he got hired at Oregon? I asked an NCAA coach if they were going to apply to Virginia Tech job. They replied, "Are you crazy? Why would I follow up the NCAAs best mid-d coach and be exposed as not being as good?"

That being said, the first thing I thought when I heard about this time was as follows. This has to be one of two things.

1) The Covid-19 effect. In my mind, the Covid-19 impact is two-fold.

i) People are very focused after missing almost a full year of competition.

ii) Plus with Covid-19, they aren't partying and getting hung over at bars

2) Super spikes. Can anyone tell me what spikes these guys are wearing?

I'd bet a lot of money the biggest impact is #2, more so than #1 or coaching.

If anyone has the new spikes at the NCAA level, it has to be Oregon.

Remember, Nick Willis recently said his new New Balance spikes helped him run 2 full seconds faster than he was expecing in a recent 1200 time trial. So if they are worth 1 second every 600 (and if anything I"d assume Nike's shoes are better), then they would be worth 6.666 seconds in a 4000.

Hmmm. Nike and 666.

Anyways, I agree with the poster below until someone tells me they weren't wearing super spikes.

faster than touhy wrote:

rocknroller wrote:

We are going to pretend like the shoes haven’t starting changing the ncaa? Their run tonight was strong, but was it record worthy? Shoes. And within a year everyone will have them and no one will care about these “great” times anymore. Let’s get back to competition.

Yep, the shoes happen to matter. Too bad nobody gets to decide when they are born and what their parents or themselves can afford.

Huh? Don’t these guys all get free shoes at university ?

rojo wrote:

1) The Covid-19 effect. In my mind, the Covid-19 impact is two-fold.

i) People are very focused after missing almost a full year of competition.

ii) Plus with Covid-19, they aren't partying and getting hung over at bars

ii) is a very good point that i've forgotten to consider.

rojo wrote:

Hmmm. Nike and 666.

Lol.

This true. Best ncaa mid-d coach no doubt

rojo wrote:

2) Super spikes. Can anyone tell me what spikes these guys are wearing?

I'd bet a lot of money the biggest impact is #2, more so than #1 or coaching.

If anyone has the new spikes at the NCAA level, it has to be Oregon..

Nike Air Zoom Victory

Razorback Invitational Fayetteville, AR - January 29, 2021 Men DMR College Record Friday 7:00 PM CST University of Oregon 9:19.42 College Record - Congrats to Cole Hocker, Luis Peralta , Charlie Hunter, Cooper Teare

does 2:49 on the opening split seem off? did they hand off early or when was that split taken? 2:49 for 1200 would put the leadoff guy in like 3:36 1500m shape

I’ve been waiting for someone to say this, I didn’t know if I was just crazy but I thought the best performance. Has anyone gone faster?