The Unkle wrote:
My friend's daughter got the 2nd shot.
Extremely ill for about 36 hours. She is in her mid 20s so likely got far sicker than the Covid would have made her.
Sick "with the vaccine" or sick "from the vaccine"? Are you implying that people never became ill before the vaccine?
agip wrote:
Reminder that minimum wage is only paid to 1% of workers, and the percent of workers paid minimum wage is at historic lows.
Although you can argue that a higher minimum wage will push up other wages.
But the people paid minimum wage are generally very very young and not supporting households.
Not as big a deal to people as you might think.
https://twitter.com/Mark_J_Perry/status/1366563525649440772?s=20
The argument about pushing up other wages should not be swept aside. It's a really important point.
But the simple moral argument for a living wage is that someone who is willing to work 40 hours a week should be able to afford food, clothing, shelter, and medical care. A person should be able to support themselves through their work instead of relying on the government for extra assistance.
Since we have cut corporate taxes to almost nothing, at least these companies should pay their workers enough that middle class citizens don't have to pay for government subsidies like food stamps and housing.
Monkeys typing wrote:
The Unkle wrote:
My friend's daughter got the 2nd shot.
Extremely ill for about 36 hours. She is in her mid 20s so likely got far sicker than the Covid would have made her.
Sick "with the vaccine" or sick "from the vaccine"? Are you implying that people never became ill before the vaccine?
What?
What I wrote is quite clear. Why does it trigger such a nonsensical response from you? Seek help
agip wrote:
Reminder that minimum wage is only paid to 1% of workers, and the percent of workers paid minimum wage is at historic lows.
Although you can argue that a higher minimum wage will push up other wages.
But the people paid minimum wage are generally very very young and not supporting households.
Not as big a deal to people as you might think.
https://twitter.com/Mark_J_Perry/status/1366563525649440772?s=20
That's nonsense.
Only 1% of workers are paid minimum wage? And you believe that? Have you no life experience? No common sense?
Not all areas are the same wrote:
Lastly, are EV charging stations free to the public or is there a charge for the charge? If so, what is a typical fee?
Many charging stations are free to the public. You typically find free chargers in shopping areas as these are used to attract shoppers.
The fees vary widely but they are always several times lower than you would pay for gas. The most expensive rates are for DC fast chargers. The most expensive ones equate to about 6 cents per mile. If you charge at home it's around 2 cents per mile.
I rarely pay over $8 for a charging session.
Fat hurts wrote:
Yes, EVs will keep getting better. But they are already far superior to gas cars.
So if you need a new car today, get an EV. If you buy a gas car you are an idiot.
I'm an idiot.
I bought a new gas car last year.
The choices of a comparable EV were pretty nil.
It may be my last gas car for everyday use, but I will buy some gas car again as a toy at some point.
And hopefully a manual transmission.
L L wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Yes, EVs will keep getting better. But they are already far superior to gas cars.
So if you need a new car today, get an EV. If you buy a gas car you are an idiot.
I'm an idiot.
I bought a new gas car last year.
The choices of a comparable EV were pretty nil.
It may be my last gas car for everyday use, but I will buy some gas car again as a toy at some point.
And hopefully a manual transmission.
What car did you get?
There is a big difference between last year and this year. It's getting easier and easier to find comparable EV models.
Gas cars as toys will always be with us. Just like horses.
Fat hurts wrote:
jumbo shrimp wrote:
200 miles! That must be fun. Barely get on the road and already have to pull over, check the web for a charging station that may or may not be occupied for the next couple of hours or even operational. And then at my destination I don’t have to worry about there being a charging station. Nah. I’d rather spend that time at my destination. Batteries are getting better and in the next few years EVs will be a lot better, less frustrating and more convenient.
I mean ideal weather conditions and city driving. There are lots of people besides me who report getting 300+ miles for range estimate in the Bolt.
Here is a Bolt owner who not only got over 300 miles as a range estimate as I have done; he actually drove 300 miles on a single charge:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtZz0wKGPDwThis also shows how I immediately knew you were lying about someone who forgot to plug in and woke up to a dead battery. This basically can't happen because the car gives you all kinds of warnings if you let the battery get low and it even reduces propulsion to save battery if you get really, really low. It's the kind of advanced intelligence you generally don't get with a gas car.
Yes, EVs will keep getting better. But they are already far superior to gas cars.
So if you need a new car today, get an EV. If you buy a gas car you are an idiot.
Congrats on getting 300 miles without having to stop for a couple of hours to charge. Lol. I’m sure if I didn’t run AC/heat, didn’t turn on the nav, radio, no chargers, no WiFi on, and drove several miles under the speed limit in a flat area or all downhill with the wind behind me at the perfect temperature I could get double the 300. And if I needed to fill up I could just go to any of the many of gas stations in virtually any area with open, working pumps and be back on the road in 5 minutes not 2 hours. I clarified my statement from earlier. Got little juice because you forgot to plug in at home and you’ve got hours of charging to wait on. Inconvenient and frustrating. Things will get better in the next few years because battery tech will reduce prices and increase range. Plus infrastructure will improve. Right now EVs are not ready for mainstream. Too inconvenient and too frustrating.
The Unkle wrote:
agip wrote:
Reminder that minimum wage is only paid to 1% of workers, and the percent of workers paid minimum wage is at historic lows.
Although you can argue that a higher minimum wage will push up other wages.
But the people paid minimum wage are generally very very young and not supporting households.
Not as big a deal to people as you might think.
https://twitter.com/Mark_J_Perry/status/1366563525649440772?s=20That's nonsense.
Only 1% of workers are paid minimum wage? And you believe that? Have you no life experience? No common sense?
I know I shouldn't debate with you because you are wholly impervious to facts, but ok I'm procrastinating at work and I'm right, so:
BLS: 1.8 million get minimum wage or less:
In 2017, 80.4 million workers age 16 and older in the United States were paid at hourly rates, representing 58.3 percent of all wage and salary workers. Among those paid by the hour, 542,000 workers earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 1.3 million had wages below the federal minimum.
Statista: Civilian work force is 159 million
1.8/159 = 1.1%
Sources:
https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2017/home.htm#:~:text=Among%20those%20paid%20by%20the,of%20all%20hourly%20paid%20workers.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/193956/unadjusted-monthly-civilian-labor-force-in-the-us/#:~:text=In%20January%202021%2C%20the%20number,States%20amounted%20to%20159.23%20million.
Fat hurts wrote:
agip wrote:
Reminder that minimum wage is only paid to 1% of workers, and the percent of workers paid minimum wage is at historic lows.
Although you can argue that a higher minimum wage will push up other wages.
But the people paid minimum wage are generally very very young and not supporting households.
Not as big a deal to people as you might think.
https://twitter.com/Mark_J_Perry/status/1366563525649440772?s=20The argument about pushing up other wages should not be swept aside. It's a really important point.
But the simple moral argument for a living wage is that someone who is willing to work 40 hours a week should be able to afford food, clothing, shelter, and medical care. A person should be able to support themselves through their work instead of relying on the government for extra assistance.
Since we have cut corporate taxes to almost nothing, at least these companies should pay their workers enough that middle class citizens don't have to pay for government subsidies like food stamps and housing.
I can't disagree with the moral argument, but I'd say that it's a smaller problem than most people think, since so many minimum wage earners are very young and don't have to support themselves with their wages.
I'll just say it was a sports coupe.
A Tesla Model S would be nice. Not 2 door sporty but would do the trick.
Still a bit pricey.
I want to see what Cadillac comes out with. Their ELR plug-in hybrid was lacking in power.
All manufacturers are working on EVs and I want to see how it goes after a couple of model years go by.
The ELR had the best commercial and was a good looking car but it didn't work out.
agip wrote:
Reminder that minimum wage is only paid to 1% of workers, and the percent of workers paid minimum wage is at historic lows.
Although you can argue that a higher minimum wage will push up other wages.
But the people paid minimum wage are generally very very young and not supporting households.
Not as big a deal to people as you might think.
The number (or percentage) of workers paid minimum wage now is different than the number of workers whose pay would be increased with an increase in minimum wage. That is 1% are paid exactly minimum wage, but those paid between the current and the new minimum wage would see increases. I've no idea how many people that impacts, but that would be the more relevant statistic.
Monkeys typing wrote:
agip wrote:
Reminder that minimum wage is only paid to 1% of workers, and the percent of workers paid minimum wage is at historic lows.
Although you can argue that a higher minimum wage will push up other wages.
But the people paid minimum wage are generally very very young and not supporting households.
Not as big a deal to people as you might think.
The number (or percentage) of workers paid minimum wage now is different than the number of workers whose pay would be increased with an increase in minimum wage. That is 1% are paid exactly minimum wage, but those paid between the current and the new minimum wage would see increases. I've no idea how many people that impacts, but that would be the more relevant statistic.
fair
I'd add that states representing a majority of the population have state minimum wage laws exceeding the federal minimum wage, so citing 1% of persons making the federal MW is a bit of misleading spin.
It seems strange that we generally have the same actors messaging both that a federal MW doesn't change anything and that it will decimate small service businesses and lower overall employment.
Monkeys typing wrote:
I'd add that states representing a majority of the population have state minimum wage laws exceeding the federal minimum wage, so citing 1% of persons making the federal MW is a bit of misleading spin.
It seems strange that we generally have the same actors messaging both that a federal MW doesn't change anything and that it will decimate small service businesses and lower overall employment.
minimum wage is a very complicated subject that no one knows the right answer to.
I'm not surprised at all that odd bedfellows are created when discussing it.
A main thing to me is what you point out - that the US is massively diverse economically and paying mw of $15 an hour in Wyoming or MS doesn't make much sense, but makign it $15 in NY or CA does make sense.
Same with gun control - coming up with one policy for the entire empire doesn't make a lot of sense at all.
jumbo shrimp wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
I mean ideal weather conditions and city driving. There are lots of people besides me who report getting 300+ miles for range estimate in the Bolt.
Here is a Bolt owner who not only got over 300 miles as a range estimate as I have done; he actually drove 300 miles on a single charge:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtZz0wKGPDwThis also shows how I immediately knew you were lying about someone who forgot to plug in and woke up to a dead battery. This basically can't happen because the car gives you all kinds of warnings if you let the battery get low and it even reduces propulsion to save battery if you get really, really low. It's the kind of advanced intelligence you generally don't get with a gas car.
Yes, EVs will keep getting better. But they are already far superior to gas cars.
So if you need a new car today, get an EV. If you buy a gas car you are an idiot.
Congrats on getting 300 miles without having to stop for a couple of hours to charge. Lol. I’m sure if I didn’t run AC/heat, didn’t turn on the nav, radio, no chargers, no WiFi on, and drove several miles under the speed limit in a flat area or all downhill with the wind behind me at the perfect temperature I could get double the 300. And if I needed to fill up I could just go to any of the many of gas stations in virtually any area with open, working pumps and be back on the road in 5 minutes not 2 hours. I clarified my statement from earlier. Got little juice because you forgot to plug in at home and you’ve got hours of charging to wait on. Inconvenient and frustrating. Things will get better in the next few years because battery tech will reduce prices and increase range. Plus infrastructure will improve. Right now EVs are not ready for mainstream. Too inconvenient and too frustrating.
Again, the scenario you describe of getting in trouble because you forgot to plug in just doesn't happen!!
With home charging, you plug in every night just like with your cell phone. You start each day with a full charge and you never need to visit a public charger (or a gas station!!!). So even if you forget to plug in one or two nights in a row, you will still have enough juice to get through the day.
agip wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
The argument about pushing up other wages should not be swept aside. It's a really important point.
But the simple moral argument for a living wage is that someone who is willing to work 40 hours a week should be able to afford food, clothing, shelter, and medical care. A person should be able to support themselves through their work instead of relying on the government for extra assistance.
Since we have cut corporate taxes to almost nothing, at least these companies should pay their workers enough that middle class citizens don't have to pay for government subsidies like food stamps and housing.
I can't disagree with the moral argument, but I'd say that it's a smaller problem than most people think, since so many minimum wage earners are very young and don't have to support themselves with their wages.
True. And there probably should be some tweaks in the law to account for those who don't support themselves.
The biden hypocrisy on full display. The fake outrage about Trump's immigration was never about "social justice" it was pure politics and lies.
Now Biden is enacting the same policies as Trump. So it looks like the libs voted for Biden but got Trump. Enjoy your loss!
Except Trump never openly asked for illegal immigrants to come in to the country, that is a very big difference and one that should be stopped immediately!
Chevy Bolt is a clown car.