Official LRC President Joseph R Biden Thread

This is a strange and surprising back and forth to have on this topic. My only guess is that maybe we're talking about two different groups of people?

Surely, my assertion that a large fraction of the 70-something million who voted for him have above-average intelligence couldn't be in question, could it? Or, flipped the other way, you're not saying that just about all of that group has well below average intelligence, right?

The other possibility is that you're only talking about his core group of mouth-breathers, a good sampling of which showed up on 6 Jan? I would agree that that slice could likely be much less intelligent than the voted-for-him average. Still though, I can EASILY imagine that tons of people in that mob are quite intelligent and/or have lived quite decent and successful lives.

Pulling back, here's another way to look at it: There are fundamentally 2 groups of Trump supporters:

1) Those ACTUALLY too dumb to see him for what he is. As many dumb f**** as there are out there (I recently passed half a century wandering around here, so please don't tell me I don't know), I still don't think that this explains MOST of the total Trump group.

2) Those smart enough to see what he is, but STILL prefer him for a host of reasons, with the main one probably being an intense dislike for most or all things "liberal." This group includes just about every R politician and official in this country, and tens of millions of reasonably intelligent and/or reasonably well-educated voters.

And I will admit that featured prominently in this latter group is a flavor of stupidity that causes one to improperly weigh the importance of issues - e.g., transgender bathrooms vs. honesty, or marginal differences [maybe!] in illegal immigration versus democracy, or PC/woke crap versus intentionally flubbing a pandemic, etc., etc.

And while this form of stupidity drives me crazy, I still think that it falls more in a "blind spot stupidity" category (populated by LOTS of smart and/or well-educated people), rather than something found ONLY in the truly, uniformly, REALLY dumb group of folks you're talking about.

Lastly, where I think that I will fully agree with you regards rural America. The Trump era sure seems to show that the intellectual disrespect given to the average hayseed in your average rural town or field was......way more deserved than we might have hoped. Red county, dumb f*** county.....ROUGHLY speaking.

You can't pump gas without electricity. As soon as your lawn mower gas runs out you are done.

Meanwhile, I can still power my EV with solar forever.

If natural disaster is the best argument you've got then you will lose. Take flooding for instance. An EV can practically drive underwater. But if the water goes up to your tailpipe your gas car will stall.

Sally, quit posting stuff that you know is a lie. I've already debunked your BS. There are $26,000 new EVs you can buy. And nobody knows how many EVs will qualify for the credit.

Is there a new EV that 1) costs 26,000, 2) qualifies for the tax credit, and 3) won't change in price once the tax credit goes into effect? If not then you cannot claim there is a new EV that only costs $19K.

And with power grids down, your EV is useless and solar powered EV's as your primary source are not a thing today and doesn't do much for you on cloudy/rainy days. Driving an EV in flooded conditions can get you electrocuted.

And maybe 4) as a nice bonus, won't be on a 12+ month waitlist if the price ever is actually 19K.

But that's what trolls *do*. And you choose to keep feeding them with the responses that they so crave.

Wow. You are out of your mind.

The Chevy Bolt EV will likely be available in the $19,000 range if it qualifies. It has a decent shot at the tax credit as it is assembled in the US and its battery is also assembled in the US.

Whether or not GM will raise the price is anyone's guess. But GM is trying to make EVs for every price segment. So there is a limit ($55,000) to how high they can price their lineup of qualifying sedans. That would disincentivize them from raising the price of the Bolt.

Got tired of that a while back, son. But that's what trolls do. The best response: none. Starve 'em.

That's true. Place your EV orders soon with an honest dealer who will let you lock in the price.

Or buy a Tesla and you don't have to worry about dishonest dealers. You can lock in your price today.

With the power grids down, I can store solar power with a Powerwall or other battery and then transfer that power to my EV. But you still can't pump gas.

EVs do no harm when flooded. The battery is fully sealed and so is the passenger compartment.

Driving an EV in flooded conditions is a lot safer than in a gas car. A flooded gas car is stalled and ruined.

Interesting.

Some things:

1) Since you're being pedantic, what you MEANT to say there is that ADVERBS ending in "ly" don't require a hyphen. "Friendly", for example, is not an adverb and WOULD require a hyphen if used as we are discussing. Same is true with "family" and "supply" and a whole host of other words. For the record, I knew when you mentioned this that the rule would have to do with adverbs and not words ending in "ly." Good idea when being pedantic to be completely correct. You were not in this case.

2) You ARE correct though that I should not have used a hyphen with the word "highly".

3) I actually did NOT know that was a rule, so that's interesting. I looked it up, and it is indeed one (as I stated in #1 above, not how you stated it). I could lie to you and just say it was a typo, but I do not lie EVER. I will likely commit this heinous offense again though as it really isn't that important to me...other than as a point of interest. I have never claimed to be a grammar Nazi.

4) Finally, highly educated people don't know everything, and I have never stated that I do. Trumpers are still the dumbest people in our country, and it's not even close.

Wrong, it can get you and your family killed. Take the "L" and move on.

Most cars will already be electric by 2035. Gas stations will be hard to find.

If you have a gas car you should sell it in the next year or two. The bottom is going to drop out of the used market for gas cars within 2 to 3 years.

And if you buy a new gas car you are an idiot.

Why? Because the government trashed all of the ICE cars that were sold prior to 2035?

INCORRECT! Sorry agip, but Joe actually IS a "total idiot." Just because he's able to find a reason to discount ANYTHING that might look good for Biden doesn't mean he's not a total idiot. He is. He's a Trumper, and by definition they are all "total idiots" and other similar words and phrases, without exception.