Ellen Page is now Elliot Page?

You do raise an interesting question. Will Elliot be cast in roles that would normally go to a "male" lead - someone like a Tom Cruise or young Harrison Ford, or Ryan Gosling and so on - particularly if he were to play the romantic lead opposite a straight female? Would audiences buy that? Would you?

Immediatley after the news, everything on IMDB page was changed from her to him, as well as using "they" at somepoints. Check the bio and trivia

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0680983/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0

I think he’s a great actor, and could see him playing roles next to straight females.

However, he’s quite small even by female standards at 5’1” and about 110lbs. I think that will be a bigger hurdle to make roles than the fact that he’s transgender.

I anticipate he will get cast, but it will be smaller/indie production houses that make that jump first. I'm not so confident one of the big guns with multi-million pound budgets (like an Inception) will want to 'risk' their financial investment (on the film) if one of the main actors may turn away certain audiences (however wrong that may be) ... or companies will take the "easy choice" and cast Elliot in roles of transgender characters

for clarification: I'm all for Elliot being cast, I'm just anticipating the corporate response

Didn’t hurt Danny Devito. Just have to cultivate mass bro

Rainy Day wrote:

I think he’s a great actor, and could see him playing roles next to straight females.

However, he’s quite small even by female standards at 5’1” and about 110lbs. I think that will be a bigger hurdle to make roles than the fact that he’s transgender.

was gonna reference Tom Cruise but then realised even he's 5'7 and everyone makes short jokes about him. fair point.

missledtoes wrote:

Just have to cultivate mass bro

Such a good response...and it is also “woke” in a way.

I know I've asked this before, but let me make sure I've got this right.

1. Ellen Page is now Elliot Page..

2. Now uses the term "he"

3. Elliot Page is married to a woman....

4. Elliot Page has said he still identifies as queer

I'm lost. Wouldn't you being a man being married to a woman make you straight or is "identifying" as queer somehow different?

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:

I know I've asked this before, but let me make sure I've got this right.

1. Ellen Page is now Elliot Page..

2. Now uses the term "he"

3. Elliot Page is married to a woman....

4. Elliot Page has said he still identifies as queer

I'm lost. Wouldn't you being a man being married to a woman make you straight or is "identifying" as queer somehow different?

I asked the same question a couple of months back. It's all too complicated for me. I wish them well.

Rainy Day wrote:

I think he’s a great actor, and could see him playing roles next to straight females.

However, he’s quite small even by female standards at 5’1” and about 110lbs. I think that will be a bigger hurdle to make roles than the fact that he’s transgender.

So even Tom Cruise is a giant, by comparison. I think some roles will remain out of reach - literally - at 5'1".

I would also find it difficult to suspend my disbelief to see him playing a straight male role. So, I suspect, would Steven Seagal.

missledtoes wrote:

Didn’t hurt Danny Devito. Just have to cultivate mass bro

You think there's any resemblance to Danny Devito? (Apart from short). How about then that Danny plays a girl? You would buy that?

Why can't he play a transgender character. I'm sure many will be written into scripts.

So who cares about this anyway?

Well, I don't have a problem with people pretending to be whatever. Their body, their choice. I hope he/ she finds peace.

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:

I know I've asked this before, but let me make sure I've got this right.

1. Ellen Page is now Elliot Page..

2. Now uses the term "he"

3. Elliot Page is married to a woman....

4. Elliot Page has said he still identifies as queer

I'm lost. Wouldn't you being a man being married to a woman make you straight or is "identifying" as queer somehow different?

Queer is different. Dig about on t'internet for a better understanding on the term.

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:

I know I've asked this before, but let me make sure I've got this right.

1. Ellen Page is now Elliot Page..

2. Now uses the term "he"

3. Elliot Page is married to a woman....

4. Elliot Page has said he still identifies as queer

I'm lost. Wouldn't you being a man being married to a woman make you straight or is "identifying" as queer somehow different?

Yes, it is a bit perplexing. I don't quite get how you can be "he" as well as "non-binary", as the former is clearly binary (and to be both singular and plural, through being "he" and "they". Does "they" still include "she"? I'm not sure what else it could refer to). I also find it puzzling that he can call himself "queer" when he is in a relationship with a woman. Does his partner - a lesbian - now see herself as straight?

If gender can now mean whatever you choose it to mean, does it mean anything?

Well...... wrote:

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:

I know I've asked this before, but let me make sure I've got this right.

1. Ellen Page is now Elliot Page..

2. Now uses the term "he"

3. Elliot Page is married to a woman....

4. Elliot Page has said he still identifies as queer

I'm lost. Wouldn't you being a man being married to a woman make you straight or is "identifying" as queer somehow different?

Queer is different. Dig about on t'internet for a better understanding on the term.

"Queer" has been around long before the internet. What is it if it isn't the opposite of "straight"?

Why even bring up that you're not discriminatory? Do you want to remind us about your one black friend too?

kimonay wrote:

Well, I don't have a problem with people pretending to be whatever. Their body, their choice. I hope he/ she finds peace.

You touched on a very sensitive point there. They say they aren't "pretending" anything - they just are.