I just came across a free book excerpt while looking for home page links. I enjoyed reading it.
https://www.podiumrunner.com/training/balancing-confusion-vs-habituation-in-training/
I just came across a free book excerpt while looking for home page links. I enjoyed reading it.
https://www.podiumrunner.com/training/balancing-confusion-vs-habituation-in-training/
Vicki Huber said her college coach wouldn't tell her the workout.
She had to run each interval not knowing if it was the last.
She preferred that once she got used to it, but I would not.
Variation is good, but repetition breeds control before boredom.
I thought the best message from the link, at least for those on LRC, was to vary their weekly mileage.
rojo wrote:
I just came across a free book excerpt while looking for home page links.
I'd say that you got your moneys worth.
beachbum wrote:
Variation is good, but repetition breeds control before boredom.
I thought the best message from the link, at least for those on LRC, was to vary their weekly mileage.
Vary everything. Its something we all knew back in the early 70s and we learned it from the guys who ran in the 60s and 50s.
beachbum wrote:
Vicki Huber said her college coach wouldn't tell her the workout.
She had to run each interval not knowing if it was the last.
She preferred that once she got used to it, but I would not.
Variation is good, but repetition breeds control before boredom.
I thought the best message from the link, at least for those on LRC, was to vary their weekly mileage.
The "interval" is the recovery period.
former.wordsmith wrote:
beachbum wrote:
Vicki Huber said her college coach wouldn't tell her the workout.
She had to run each interval not knowing if it was the last.
She preferred that once she got used to it, but I would not.
Variation is good, but repetition breeds control before boredom.
I thought the best message from the link, at least for those on LRC, was to vary their weekly mileage.
The "interval" is the recovery period.
maybe it was a jog
Unless I missed something, it doesn't seem to me that the author's main point was to vary one's weekly mileage. When building up to a higher level of mileage, yes, he suggests some variation (a week of lower mileage interspersed here and there). But once you hit your desired level (let's say 80 miles per week), the message was to keep going at the same level: "Once you reach a higher level of mileage, stay there for as long as you can."
Habitation leads to mastery- is the best way to train, I think everyone knows this. IMO, this seems to argue against the typical phase type training, but working on all things, all year- just like a golfer would. You don't just practice putting when you have a tournament coming up, you practice it all year.
Not saying that things don't get more emphasis toward a peak, but you leave one system alone too long, you have to rebuild it.
The infamous "rcjason" wrote a book! Hope he used the tips from this legendary thread:
Seriously mate? wrote:
The infamous "rcjason" wrote a book! Hope he used the tips from this legendary thread:
https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=8172432
That thread IS legendary!
I have written a story on the study for Podium Runner. It has not been published yet, but soon I hope.
The study is outstanding in terms of objectively measuring total movement in a very large number of people. They used accelerometers, not questionnaires, in which people always "fib" by exaggerating the amount of exercise they do.
The researchers found even more reduction in heart disease and stroke--30 to 60 percent--than previous similar studies. And the more people moved, the better. There was no J-curve where returns diminish and even turn bad.
However, this was not an endurance marathon or cycling or swimming study. It didn't look at exercise workouts, miles per weeks, or even minutes per week, ie, the stuff we usually follow.
It measured mainly the sum of all movements--walking the dog, vacuuming, shopping at the mall, etc. And the verdict: Movement is good, as much as you can do. Stillness is bad.
That said, the best exercise scientists I know are dubious about the merits of multiple marathons/ultras/tri's etc in a short period of time. Recovery is also a good thing.
Seriously mate? wrote:
The infamous "rcjason" wrote a book! Hope he used the tips from this legendary thread:
https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=8172432
Ahh, thanks for that! Epic, legendary thread.
Hi Amby,
Not sure if you'll see this or not, but I think you may have intended to post this on a different thread: "New study says there is no limit to exercise that will help you, dispelling myth you can do too much.... Or does it?"
I look forward to reading your story on the study.
Thanks for posting that thread. Hilarious! The only funnier thread I've ever seen on LR is the hobby jogger fanny pack one from many years ago - that one literally had me laughing so hard I was crying and my stomach hurt. Wish I'd kept the link to that one..... anyway, thanks again for the laughs !!
Found it... FYI....
889 wrote:
Habitation leads to mastery- is the best way to train, I think everyone knows this. IMO, this seems to argue against the typical phase type training, but working on all things, all year- just like a golfer would. You don't just practice putting when you have a tournament coming up, you practice it all year.
Not saying that things don't get more emphasis toward a peak, but you leave one system alone too long, you have to rebuild it.
Training has to match reality versus theory. In reality, most peoples experience is that doing a lot of end work tends to lead to staleness after 8 weeks or so. So we get the modern training where you do a bunch of easy mileage, a couple of hardish (tempo) aerobic work, and some sprint work for most of the year before moving into more specific training. Most of the details are about how hard the aerobic stuff should be (hour runs at MP like lydiard, 30 min runs at HM like daniels, or some 10k work mixed in) which I am not sure we have much evidence on. Nobody can really tell you if say 50 mins at MP pace is going to be better or worse than 30 mins at HM . Or if you would be better off doing 20 mins at 10k pace.
The problem with most studies is they are short term. It is easy to say that over say 6 weeks that a scheme of 2 vo2max interval workouts one will maximize your performance versus say running 2 tempo runs for a 3k race. But few people can keep cranking out those vo2 max intervals for extended periods of time.
Trying to figure details like is it better do do a 12 week base with say 24 tempo runs or one with 18
tempo runs and 6 vo2 max intervals is at a level I don't think science can help us with yet.
prefan wrote:
Found it... FYI....
https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=496666
Packin Heat: “Wow! I did not know that wearing a fanny pack was not a good idea. I just saw people with them and thought since other wore them I should as well.
I will put my key on a shoelace, I can't put it in that little pocket on my shorts since I run in my swimming shorts and they do not have a pocket.”
It can’t be that funny, but every time I read that specific response, I laugh uncontrollably.
FYI the front page link does not work (404). I had to cut off some stuff from URL to get here.