Is 11 minute pace running?

Jogging at best

You can run 0/mi pace. It's all about the spring in your step.

HAHAHA that's my walking pace!

I can speed walk at 6:30 pace, I can jog all the way up to about 15 minute pace. It’s really relative and all in the form.

A 34-35 minute 5k is abysmal for college boys though. I’m the only “runner” in my group of 15ish college friends and I still reckon all of them would run sub 25 at least with 5 or so dipping under 20.

Shame on them? As long as both feet come off the ground, yes its running.

cheech wrote:

Shame on them? As long as both feet come off the ground, yes its running.

Wrong

to be considered running, both feet should NEVER be in contact with the ground at the same time,

Sham 69 wrote:

HAHAHA that's my walking pace!

Yeah, ditto. I've walked (barely) sub-11:00 for 31 miles, and the only way you could call it running is that it wasn't real racewalking (I can't quite straighten my legs).

Maybe we could call what the bros were doing "shacking"--a fine old term that I haven't heard in recent years.

I think for the average person, 13 minutes is walking pace. 11 minutes would be jogging pace for those that are unfit. Most runners could not "run" at 11 minutes without sacrificing proper mechanics. The obvious conclusion then is that these college kids were "running" but they wouldn't be considered runners.

Not for a college kid. Even my 4'-11", 55 yo wife averages under 11 min miles on easy days and races a 5K, in the 9s.

For me it’s gonna have to be. But

I can’t get myself to go to a race anymore.

I’ve signed up, paid and didn’t show up for the last 13 races.

My 44th year of training. I never could believe that I’d get that slow. A lot of miles, a lot of injuries and cancer.

11 minutes is a steady pace for me now.. my race prep tempo runs barely under 9, make me just shut the alarm clock off and go back to sleep on race mornings.

Some races, I actually go pick up my packet.. it’s a stage of denial I guess.. but I’ll pay for another race soon and hope for a mental miracle ha... 65 years old.

King Tiger wrote:

Jogging at best

If both feet are off the ground at the same time while propelling one's body forward then it is, by definition, running.

The term "jogging" would never be used by a real runner.

They're just unfit wrote:

I think for the average person, 13 minutes is walking pace. 11 minutes would be jogging pace for those that are unfit. Most runners could not "run" at 11 minutes without sacrificing proper mechanics. The obvious conclusion then is that these college kids were "running" but they wouldn't be considered runners.

You think wrong. A 13-minute mile is 4.6mph; that's a rapid walking speed that exceeds military marching pace. If you think that's walking pace for "the average person," guess again. That "average person" is overweight, in poor health, pathetically out of shape, and can barely get off his or her own ass.

Honestly the hobby jogger conversation is over done! Who cares what we call our 11 minute mile pace? At least, we are out doing something, rather than driving through Dunkin’ Donuts and Starbucks for our 5K Turkey Trot wear we burnt 300 calories. Let us have our physical hobby jogger fantasies of being “runners”?

They're have been studies done on this lol. 13 minutes is pretty much the point where walking mechanics and running mechanics converge. Go out there and try to run at 13 minute pace and report back your mechanics. Most likely you could not "run" that slowly with proper mechanics even if you tried.

Also the average college kid, at least where I'm from, isn't in poor health and pathetically out of shape and/or overweight.

AverageJoesGym262 wrote:

Honestly the hobby jogger conversation is over done! Who cares what we call our 11 minute mile pace? At least, we are out doing something, rather than driving through Dunkin’ Donuts and Starbucks for our 5K Turkey Trot wear we burnt 300 calories. Let us have our physical hobby jogger fantasies of being “runners”?

I agree. Could be worse.

Yes. A very slow run. I have tried speed walking as fast as possible before without converting to running mechanics. Around the 12 min/mile pace is where your form changes from speed walk to a sort of shuffling run. At least for me.

They're just unfit wrote:

I think for the average person, 13 minutes is walking pace.

Average walking pace has historically been 20min/mi (if not a rule-of-thumb).

Yeah, your average walking pace is definitely not 13 min per mile.

Of course not. It’s crawling.

9 minute pace is walking. 6 minute is jogging. 4 minute pace is considered running.