Researchers: Owning a dog ups odds of getting Covid by 78% + getting groceries delivered is more dangerous than going to store

But they seem to be right. I don't have a dog, I get groceries myself and I don't have Corona yet.

Reading this thread raises one’s risk by 17%. Prove me wrong.

I have two dogs, so I guess my chances of getting the virus are 2x78%. Wow! How did I survive so far?

Increases by 78% is not the same as increases to 78%.

Only 98 people in the survey actually caught the virus.

At the beginning of the pandemic, a study claimed that bald men were at greater risk for acute COVID 19 cases. There was a lot of stuff about testosterone and immune systems. It turns out the study was garbage because the authors failed to account for age. Most men lose their hair when they get older and age correlates with acute COVID 19 cases.

There are a lot of bad studies out there. The most recent one was one that claimed that keeping kids at home raised mortality risk higher than keeping them in school during an outbreak. All they did was took a single study that came up with a reduction in lifespan based on grade level completion and compared it to COVID 19 mortality risks in kids. That alone is dumb because the loss of schooling can be made up over time with remedial measures. But it is truly a bad study because it does not even begin to address the problem of kids transmitting the virus to parents and other adults and the impact on kids who lose parent due to the virus.

So, the Spanish study is obviously garbage because there could be all kinds of explanations for why people who walked their dogs had higher risk of contracting the virus or why home grocery delivery had a higher risk than shopping in person. The big tell that the study is garbage is that it does not match any of the science that is out there. Dogs have not been shown to transmit the virus to people and fomites have not been shown to be a dependable means of transmission.

Miasma wrote:

Reading this thread raises one’s risk by 17%. Prove me wrong.

How many cycles do I get?

It's those darn anti-maskers getting their groceries delivered at home clearly.

You know what else they say about guys that don't own a dog?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bLkciAYDJ0

It is possible that those in higher risk categories are more likely to get groceries delivered AND more likely to become symptomatic AND therefore get tested. Many people who go to get their groceries may contract the virus but not test positive as they may be asymptomatic and therefore not get tested.

This study probably just missed a bunch of lurking variables. For example, if you get groceries delivered, you are probably wealthy. Perhaps wealthy people are also much more likely to visit restaurants, be part of a social/religious organization, etc. thus catching Covid.

I have not read the study but just an FYI to all the Letsrunners here....studies isolate variables or attempt to do so.

dndndjdj wrote:

I have not read the study but just an FYI to all the Letsrunners here....studies isolate variables or attempt to do so.

Thank you Captain Obvious! Good studies do.

Indeed. Though I continue to cling to the idea that Rojo means well, this post and the one about the 32-minute 5k runner who improved by 7% wearing the Vaporfly are, well, hard to swallow. Is he really as dumb as he so often seems? My god, we have years of evidence that he is barely literate on top of everything else, and the unprofessional way that this site is managed.... I'm going to continue to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he is just posting random click-bait to help the LRC business.

Rojo has found his level wrote:

The Daily Mail, well done, you raise the tone of your message board consistently.

Great contribution.

I have a dog, get groceries delivered, and go to work in my office.

I have been fine this entire time.

Well, people with dogs take them outside every day and often walk them around the neighborhood and say hello to others. Maybe they wear masks, maybe not. You dog goes up to other people or their dogs and sniffs them, and then you usually go to that person and say hello and have small talk about your dogs. Dog owners interact with strangers more.

Also I think the lurking variable of grocery delivery is people who have suppressed immune systems are more likely to get grocery delivery and stay inside in general. They probably don’t go in the sun much, low vitamin D. This further suppressed their immune system and makes them more likely to catch Covid from a delivery guy

You can't take anything from this survey. It's all conjecture and correlation. It does not prove that any of those activities resulted in people getting Covid.

Also don't read the Daily Mail, it's tabloid garbage.

What if your dog gets the groceries?

For the grocery delivery, what does a "store" look like in Spain and what and who does the "grocery delivery" consist of in Spain as well. What are the requirements, etc.