FTW over Day, Lara, and Fauble.
What a run for Morgan!
FTW over Day, Lara, and Fauble.
What a run for Morgan!
It seems whenever Morgan steps into these races (admittedly not quite top tier) he seems to beat a lot of really good runners. Thinking back to US Club Cross last year at Lehigh where he smacked a few of the Army guys.
Can you share the results or post a link to them?
Is there video of the race, or just video of Ritz and that other girl talking about the race as it's happening?
Morgan is an animal and one of the top American distance runners right now.
But also, this has to be embarrassing for the full-time runners, right? I'm sure many of the guys he beat will justify this loss saying that they're not 13.1 specialists but Morgan isn't either. Even if you forget his swim/cycling, he's still training to run 10k's, not halfs.
I think it's time to admit Tinman training is good enough to keep up with the big boys. Quite a good showing for them and Reed Fischer would have been right up there, too, if he had raced.
oknow1 wrote: Reed Fischer would have been right up there, too, if he had raced.
Stop this crap, right now!
Pearson is great when the rest of the field isn't peaking and when there's no real appearance or prize money on the line. If he shows up to Houston sometime, he'd pull a Walmsley.
oknow1 wrote:
I think it's time to admit Tinman training is good enough to keep up with the big boys. Quite a good showing for them and Reed Fischer would have been right up there, too, if he had raced.
I though Morgan wasn’t being coached by Tinman and is no longer part of Tinman elite.
oknow1 wrote:
I think it's time to admit Tinman training is good enough to keep up with the big boys. Quite a good showing for them and Reed Fischer would have been right up there, too, if he had raced.
Idk man. Morgan is good because he puts in like 400 miles of work a week. The man trains his aerobic system to a monstrous degree. He would beat Reed in most things, most times. Not because he trains with Tinman, but because its hard to compete with 30 hour weeks between the pool, the bike, and the trails.
Did they fix the cameras? wrote:
Is there video of the race, or just video of Ritz and that other girl talking about the race as it's happening?
These idiots are so ungrateful.
I was incredibly surprised when I saw this, Morgan is good, like really good, but he isn't a half runner and he sure as heck wasn't in peak shape for one either. I looked at his strava and he only ran 65 miles/week the past 5 weeks after averaging about 30 miles/week for august. He's even better than I thought.
oknow1 wrote:
I think it's time to admit Tinman training is good enough to keep up with the big boys. Quite a good showing for them and Reed Fischer would have been right up there, too, if he had raced.
This. Fischer was actually favorite to win out of the Tinman Elite group, he was in better shape than he has ever been before. He recently closed a 7-mile progression run at high altitude with a 14:20 5k, indicating 60/61 minute shape (that's the pace of a 60:30 half btw, not even adjusted yet for an obviously faster pace on non-altitude course!).
He would have raced, but since COVID spiked in Boulder, and fearing he picked something up (despite 3 negative tests), he decided not to start and give up this opportunity to win and set a huge PR just to protect all the other competitors. What an athlete, putting the health of others in front of his own performances, despite being in all-time high fitness!
So one Tinman-trained athlete won the whole thing (he just left the team few days ago), despite training for triathlon and spending 20-25 hours/week on that that could be focused on pure running and recovery. The other one, Sydney Gidabuday debuted a HM with a 1:02:32! And the best HM runner out of the whole squad didn't even participate in that race (Fischer).
I guess this will finally convince a lot of Tinman haters that his training is actually really good and leads to success.
I call total BS on the Hanson's course.
Look at the relay legs and look at these incredible 1/2-marathon times. Doesnt add up.
Short course
A)shocked Derrick raced (didn't think bowerman guys raced outside of team time trials in private)
B)shocked he finished - seems like it has been a while since has has
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
He would have raced, but since COVID spiked in Boulder, and fearing he picked something up (despite 3 negative tests), he decided not to start and give up this opportunity to win and set a huge PR just to protect all the other competitors. What an athlete, putting the health of others in front of his own performances, despite being in all-time high fitness!
If this is actually the case and he didn't have any symptoms, a positive test, or close contact with anyone who did, this is extremely cautious behavior.
Appreciate him taking it seriously and being selfless, but if he isolated from others he wouldn't "magically" get COVID. In a very small field in an outdoor race, I don't think there's really any reason to believe he would definitely transmit it to others, either. Not going to criticize him strongly for having an abundance of caution, but I don't think it's worthy of massive praise, either. He would rightfully get zero criticism if he had raced, so I don't see why we have to praise him for not racing.
orange stout wrote:
I call total BS on the Hanson's course.
Look at the relay legs and look at these incredible 1/2-marathon times. Doesnt add up.
Short course
What doesn't add up is that you think a course is short just because times were fast.
orange stout wrote:
I call total BS on the Hanson's course.
Look at the relay legs and look at these incredible 1/2-marathon times. Doesnt add up.
Short course
Short course? No way, they don't play that way. Not positive but I'm pretty sure Bob set up the course and he'd never do that, ever. The course had to be accurate.
And lets be honest given the shoes, those times really are not that fast. Bunch of 62s. Great win by Morgan, strong debut Day and probably good omens for Fauble & Riley at Marathon Project in December.