Best 'Stability' ish super shoe for upcoming 1/2 marathon

Adios 3/4

Really the only one I can think of.

Also might try Saucony Fastwitch 9. Pretty light for a stability shoe; definitely more flat than supershoe.

https://www.saucony.com/en/fastwitch-9/35969M.html

new balance fuelcell prism

these suck ass. I wore them once before the heel cup started digging into my heel and making it bleed. Terrible design. All their other shoes are A+++++++++

streak wrote:

new balance fuelcell prism

Assume when he says super shoe he means carbon plate and high stack of bouncy foam.

I probate and wear stability shoes for training. I have Vaporflys for races which I love but they give me serious pain in my posterior tibial tendon afterwards . Cant be good in the long run

Looking for an alternative - how do people find the Endorphin Pro, Hyperion Elite 2, or Adios Adz Pro? Any other options ?

Hyperion Elite 2 has a pretty linear footprint.

It is actually an awesome blend of protective and fast.

I’d second the NB 1500, although my model is an older one so I can speak to the other player’s comment.

Another option is the Adidas Tempo. Most people will tell you it is too heavy for a racer, but it isn’t a bad option. Upper is very similar to and fits like the Adios and Boston. But it’s heavier than both because of the stability feature. Even if you decide it’s too heavy to rave in, it would still serve as a great workout shoe.

emily sisson ran 2:22 in the 1500 in her debut marathon, so it'll probably work fine for you unless you're well over 160 lbs

The stable modern marathon racer is the Hyperion Elite 2. It has a nice wide base, isn't TOO soft, but still has some nice roll and pop. It is great underfoot, but I do warn that the achilles rubbing is really bad for me. Wear long socks. Otherwise, it is a nice shoe. Not the fastest of them, but it is very protective and stable.

AhWhatTheCheese wrote:

The stable modern marathon racer is the Hyperion Elite 2. It has a nice wide base, isn't TOO soft, but still has some nice roll and pop. It is great underfoot, but I do warn that the achilles rubbing is really bad for me. Wear long socks. Otherwise, it is a nice shoe. Not the fastest of them, but it is very protective and stable.

I have tried all of them but the Hokas and Adidas Adios Pro. The RocketX from Hoka sounds like it might be pretty stable too though.

I honestly don’t understand how the Hoka carbon shoes are even in the same discussion as the Nike, Saucony, Adidas, Brooks. They are like running on boards - no roll, no spring. And they are on the heavy end of the category. At least something like the rincon has a somewhat bouncy ride. I’m sure some runners like them but can’t figure out why.

AhWhatTheCheese wrote:

The stable modern marathon racer is the Hyperion Elite 2. It has a nice wide base, isn't TOO soft, but still has some nice roll and pop. It is great underfoot, but I do warn that the achilles rubbing is really bad for me. Wear long socks. Otherwise, it is a nice shoe. Not the fastest of them, but it is very protective and stable.

^ This. Although I got rubbing on my first run since then they have been perfect with no issues. If you are not wanting to drop $250 the Hyperion Tempo is also very stable for a neutral shoe with the same foam as the Elite 2.

Has anybody tried sticking in third party insoles or orthotics into carbon plate racers, to give them more arch support and stability ? Would that counteract the positive effect of the carbon plate spring off?

You could try if it is a low volume insert. The relatively straight last of the Hyperion Elite 2 will be pretty accommodating. Though, like the Endorphin Pro, there is no heel counter, so I don't know if a supplemental arch support/insole will be as effective. I think the Endorphin Speed might work better because there is a little more structure in the heel.

Rupp4gold2021 wrote:

Yes it is in December and yes I know it will be cancelled, but still!!

I have finally given in to the fact that (after an expensive few months of trial and error with various models) neutral shoes just do not feel comfortable on my feet. After a few days running in them over pronation gets out of control.

Anyway, upcoming half, and want to pick my shoe. I could lash on Vaporflys for the day, hate every minute, but get though the race.

However, looking for a long term fast racer - with some support or at least a decent amount of stability?

Any recommendations?

Here's a recommendation....go to PT and get your weak hips and core taken care of. Don't blame the shoes.

misleading wrote:

these suck ass. I wore them once before the heel cup started digging into my heel and making it bleed. Terrible design. All their other shoes are A+++++++++

Actually the last three NB 860s have worn out at the heel cup long before the rest of the shoe. (860s)