TADEJ POGACAR - TOUR DE FRANCE WINNER 2020

Mindpower wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

So I get that everyone in the peloton is still dirty.....it's just not the wild Wild West days anymore. But, how does a rider win the TdF in his very first Tour? The youngest winner ever.

So he wins the general, mountain, and youngest rider....

I think each year there should be an individual time trial, a mountain time trial, and a team time trial.

Alan

Alan, get your head out of the 90s. There are young riders in your local area who can put up big power numbers whilst holding down a normal day job.

Stop spreading ignorance.

So everyone's magically clean now? You're hilarious.

Alan

Runningart2004 wrote:

Mindpower wrote:

Alan, get your head out of the 90s. There are young riders in your local area who can put up big power numbers whilst holding down a normal day job.

Stop spreading ignorance.

So everyone's magically clean now? You're hilarious.

Alan

You're living in the past. Athletes are faster without drugs. You are far removed from the reality of how talented young athletes approach their sport.

But keep living out your fantasy with your gym buddies and their low self esteem drug obsessions. If that's how you want to see the world, I can't have an intelligent debate with you.

Lance or George said yesterday that Pogacar's uphill portion of Friday's TT, which he started from a dead stop after switching bikes, was 40 seconds faster than Wiggins rode when he won a stage finishing on the same climb, having started in the flat-out peloton.

Pogacar was also at threshold at bike-change point, not soft-pedaling in the group prior to the climb like Wiggins was.

Worth noting.

And let me know when Remco actually does something.

Nigel_Bikes wrote:

They used to have a Team Time Trial but that type of event was not included this year.

Come on folks, the Tour is the most diverse event out there. It has never rested on it's laurels. There have been tours when virtually every stage was a team time trial. Then there have been tours where there were like 6 ITT, and some of them up to 100 miles long!

Tours where there were no trade teams but rather by country, then back, then back again. Tours where individuals could ride, for the right price. Tours where you could drop out, and come back a few days later, but couldn't ride for the GC.

The tour is ever changing, and the only certainty, is that it will change again.

Also, Pogacar was Solvenian TT champion beating Roglic just a couple weeks prior (and convincingly). I actually thought Pogacar would make up the 57 seconds, but only "just barely" and maybe we'd break the record for closest tour ('89 by 8 seconds, also from an unbelievable TT).

You know it wrote:

Lance or George said yesterday that Pogacar's uphill portion of Friday's TT, which he started from a dead stop after switching bikes, was 40 seconds faster than Wiggins rode when he won a stage finishing on the same climb, having started in the flat-out peloton.

Pogacar was also at threshold at bike-change point, not soft-pedaling in the group prior to the climb like Wiggins was.

Worth noting.

And let me know when Remco actually does something.

Difference being that Pogacar had only ridden like 16 or 17 miles prior to the climb, versus over 100 in the Wiggans case. But sure, I suspect all top performances of being aided and this is no different, but I'm fascinated and impressed nonetheless, just like by Kipchoge's performances.

Yes wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

So I get that everyone in the peloton is still dirty.....it's just not the wild Wild West days anymore. But, how does a rider win the TdF in his very first Tour? The youngest winner ever.

So he wins the general, mountain, and youngest rider....

I think each year there should be an individual time trial, a mountain time trial, and a team time trial.

Alan

I think Bernal did the same last year. Also Pogacar isn't the youngest winner ever. I am glad that there was no team trial this year. If your team is bad, you will lose the yellow jersey no matter how good you perform individually, it doesn't make any sense.

This year serves as a great example. With Jumbo-Visma being much stronger as team compared to UAE Team Emirates. A TTT may have given Roglic enough of a buffer to survive the ITT.