Hyperion tempo, endorphin speed, or peg turbo

Endorphin Speed IMO. Way more responsive and springier than the Peg Turbo.

Haven't tried the Hyperio Tempo. Peg Turbos are light and nice and cushy but I don't think of them as particularly fast.

I have the speed and 3 pairs of turbo 2. The first few runs I wasn't impressed with the speed, but they have grown on me. I'm a big fan of the turbo 2 for an all around shoe. For me the speed feels firm and responsive, and the turbo 2 is a little more cushioned and springy.

If I was picking one pair to do the majority of my faster runs in I would lean towards the speed. Price of shoes is not a big factor for me, but I did get two pairs of turbo 2 last month from a Nike outlet for $52/each bc of a 20% off sale and $20 coupon, the speed were $160.

hyperion tempo doesn't feel like a "super shoe" to me. I have 250mi in a pair, used for basically all types of runs

I'd go with the Endorphin Speed based on feedback I've seen

That’s good to hear the speed is firmer. I’ve had issues going from daily trainer into spikes for the first time, so maybe this will help me get used to that a little more.

speed > turbo

the hyperion 1's were decent but brooks got their stuff together and the hyperion 2s are a lot better and you should get them

reed wrote:

hyperion tempo doesn't feel like a "super shoe" to me. I have 250mi in a pair, used for basically all types of runs

the tempos are for "tempos"

Another vote for the Speeds here.

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

Another vote for the Speeds here.

As a higher arch high volume/wider foot I'm leaning towards Brooks as I find most Saucony too narrow.

The new Fuel cell RC looks like a VF for wide footers Sub 7oz and 32mm stack... As a slight supinator I do like the lateral fin design which seems to engage the plate/roll

Never run in the Hyperion but I like the Speed WAY more than the Turbo. You should add the the FuelCell TC Elite to this list. Similar to the Speed.

I haven't tried the Hyperion Tempo. Hands down the Endorphin Speed is a faster shoe than the Turbo 2. The plate and weight give it an advantage. I would imagine for most people the Speed will be significantly faster than the Tempo as well since research suggests that the super foams have a significant advantage over eva/tpu/tpe (non peba).

zinger wrote:

I’ve always ran in one “Jack of all trades” kind of shoe for easy runs, workouts, long runs, the lot.

But I’m interested in getting a pair of shoes that I can wear pretty much exclusively for tempo runs, track workouts, and the occasional up tempo long run

I’ve heard good things about all three shoes (Hyperion tempo, endorphin speed, and peg turbo 2)

Does anyone have experience and could sway me one way or another?

For more detail. Tempo runs are around 6 min/mile. Track work is faster than that. And my fast long runs are around 6:30 or so.

Have only tried them on in stores. The Hyperion Tempo feels the most “normal” of the lot. Good solid shoe that won’t slow you down. The Endorphin Speeds feel like mini foot trampolines. Soft but super bouncy, not squishy. The peg turbos are somewhere in between. All have narrowish and pointy toe boxes.

That’s good to know and thank you everyone for responding. I’ve ran in Saucony freedoms for daily training for a while and really like them, so I’m leaning toward the speed now. I’ve also heard that the Hyperion tempo midsole gets really firm in the cold, and where I live the cold season lasts a long time.

I actually tested on the first peg turbo 2 at my local store and loved the midsole feel, definitely the squishiest thing I’ve ever felt, but my foot is a little too wide for it I think.

zinger wrote:

That’s good to know and thank you everyone for responding. I’ve ran in Saucony freedoms for daily training for a while and really like them, so I’m leaning toward the speed now. I’ve also heard that the Hyperion tempo midsole gets really firm in the cold, and where I live the cold season lasts a long time.

I actually tested on the first peg turbo 2 at my local store and loved the midsole feel, definitely the squishiest thing I’ve ever felt, but my foot is a little too wide for it I think.

I’ve run in the freedoms 1 and 2, Kinvara 6, 8 and 10, Fastwitch 7 and 8.

My current rotation is Clifton 7, Nike Peg Turbo 2, Freedom 2, and very recently Endorphin Speed.

The Speed is similar to the Turbo in that the shoe feels great at a quicker pace. It’s not bad at a lower pace it just livens up when going faster. Of course pace is all relative. The Speed is slightly heavier than the Turbo by 10 grams in my size but feels lighter, the Turbo feels bouncier and more cushioned but the Speed feels more stable and faster. The Turbo is like a trampoline and the Speed like a springy diving board.

Where I live I can’t get that Turbo 2. If I could get a hold of the Turbo for less than a $100 like the other commenters above have I’d stock up on them. That being said I think you will enjoy the Speed - it is like a Freedom but at lower speeds doesn’t have the same cushioning but at a quicker pace the energy return kicks in and feels just as cushioned but with way more bounce.

I forgot to add. I think at the paces you’ve indicated you’re gonna like the Turbo 2 and the Speed.

The speed is the best shoe of 2020. It reminds me of a Vaporfly 4% with about 75 mile on it.

zinger wrote:

I’ve always ran in one “Jack of all trades” kind of shoe for easy runs, workouts, long runs, the lot.

But I’m interested in getting a pair of shoes that I can wear pretty much exclusively for tempo runs, track workouts, and the occasional up tempo long run

I’ve heard good things about all three shoes (Hyperion tempo, endorphin speed, and peg turbo 2)

Does anyone have experience and could sway me one way or another?

For more detail. Tempo runs are around 6 min/mile. Track work is faster than that. And my fast long runs are around 6:30 or so.

Turbos just too cushy to really go.

Hyperion Tempo very nice all around. That DNA Flash midsole really shines once you start running faster.

Endorphin Speed haven't tried.

ClonedDuck wrote:

zinger wrote:

I’ve always ran in one “Jack of all trades” kind of shoe for easy runs, workouts, long runs, the lot.

But I’m interested in getting a pair of shoes that I can wear pretty much exclusively for tempo runs, track workouts, and the occasional up tempo long run

I’ve heard good things about all three shoes (Hyperion tempo, endorphin speed, and peg turbo 2)

Does anyone have experience and could sway me one way or another?

For more detail. Tempo runs are around 6 min/mile. Track work is faster than that. And my fast long runs are around 6:30 or so.

Turbos just too cushy to really go.

Hyperion Tempo very nice all around. That DNA Flash midsole really shines once you start running faster.

Endorphin Speed haven't tried.

I definitely don't think the turbos are too cushy to "really go". I did a 10 mile progression last week and mile 10 was 5:35 in turbo 2.

I commented earlier that I leaned towards picking the speed, I would like to retract that. I've gotten prob 450+ miles in turbo 2 (two different pairs) and 100+ miles in the speed. I keep reaching for turbo 2 and don't have a spot that I like the speed better in. The turbo 2 are definitely narrow which is great for me, but could be a problem for others.