I see college football players use private coaches - like an outside QB coach. Is that allowed in season? Is that allowed for track too?
I see college football players use private coaches - like an outside QB coach. Is that allowed in season? Is that allowed for track too?
i would say it can work as long as it does not interfere with what you need to do when you are WITH the program.
I worked out with a strength coach in the summer and over breaks to reduce injury.
So yeah it is fine.
It sounds like people think it is allowed, and why wouldn’t it be if football guys do it, but is it a good idea? My thinking is that the college coach has 20-30 guys he is coaching and not enough time to tailor everything to each individual. A private coach could give a runner a more specific program to follow within the parameters of the team’s regiment. E.g. what to do on days off and OYO runs. Thoughts?
As for football, I am not sure it is a matter of it being "allowed" but a matter of practicality. Unless the QB is local, when would a QB have time? There days are pretty regimented. It is not like they can take a day off and drive a few hours.
I wonder how often the QB calls the coach though.
But it raises a question: with college football offensive coordinators (who often double as QB coach) at the P5 level making 6 (and sometimes 7) figures shouldn't that coach be expected to teach. (One limitation is that off season contact is seriously limited so the use of a private coach comes into play there).
A concern with both the QB coach that I would have with the outside track coach is conflicting messages. That puts the athlete in an awkward position.
high school xc coach wrote:
i would say it can work as long as it does not interfere with what you need to do when you are WITH the program.
I understand that this poster is trying to contribute to the discussion, but 'answers' like thus really answers to the actual question asked. My interpretation of the original post is that the OP wonders whether or not the NCAA rules prohibit it. Perhaps I shouldn't single out hsxc here. The gist of the thread is people giving advice. The question remains: is there any impediment to a private coaching relationship in the rulebook? I, like the poster I'm quoting and the rest of the peanut, don't know.
This reminds me of a time when I asked what would happen if a big star ran in a shoe other than the brand the school had a contract with. So, picture King Ches here, about to win his 20th title, and on his feet are: ASICS! The board went on to say, 'Why wouldn't you run in Nike? The school gives them to you for free!' and other sort of advice/opinion/expressions of outrage, etc. The question was never answered. What actually, literally, would happen? The AD, University President, someone, must have signed a contract, but did the individual runner? I suspect the answer is: no legal action against the jock, since he's signed nothing. However, scholarship bites the dust. If it really was someone as high profile as Ches was, I suspect the school loses it's deal. I still wonder, though, and these are just guesses.
This thread is similar. So, here's the closest thing to an actual answer: it's totally OK. I believe this because Sal coached Rupp at Oregon. The school coach did not, and Al was not in UO's employ. So, that's my 2 cents. So, who can contribute a more informed answer?
Yes, that is the original question. If you hire a private running coach in season, is that allowed by the NCAA?
Didn't NC State have sisters (Frazier?) that were coached by their dad?
If the outside coach is/is not paid, does that change the rules interpretation?
I am not sure if this is in context with what you are asking but threw it out there in case it helps in some way.
It depends on the contract the school has and what brand they are sponsored by. Sometimes the school contract says athletes can and will be provided with Nike but can where other shoes from non-competing companies like ASICS or Hoka but could not wear adidas or ua. If an athlete breaches the contract, for instance Nike finds a photo of Ches wearing adidas a a school sponsored event (race or practice) the school can/likely will receive a huge fine!
And for the original question I am not aware of any specific legislation that says an athlete can’t have a private coach but there may be some instances where that takes the school beyond the allowable number of coaches so I’m not sure what happens then.