Rank the following 800m efforts? Help settle the debate

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5 years ago 08/11/2020 3:08pm EDT

My group of friends and I are doing a virtual time trial. We all ran 800m on the track. Please rank the following efforts based on background and training load

Friend 1- ran a 2:07 GPS split 2:05x watch split. He's a great runner and this was done at altitude during an 80 mpw cycle. Recently ran 15:30s at 5000ft.

Friend 2- ran a 2:13 watch split- he's about 195 lbs (30-40 lbs over race weight) and trained about 2 weeks for this effort. Was a one time 3:48 1500m runner. IMHO this is the superior effort.

Friend 3- ran a 2:19.88 (2:20 GPS) he's a stroller dad-runs about 30-35 miles a week but lives the pro lifestyle (works from home and his wife is a pro marathoner). Somehow in his career he ran 14:5x which was close to a miracle.

Friend 4- ran a 2:19x watch split (2:20 GPS) with zero run training in the past 8 years. Was a professional cyclist for a few years but now is a retired cart pulling dad who only rides his bike on bike paths

5 years ago 08/11/2020 3:35pm EDT

re: Off brand Seltzer

Off brand Seltzer wrote:
My group of friends and I are doing a virtual time trial. We all ran 800m on the track. Please rank the following efforts based on background and training load
Friend 1- ran a 2:07 GPS split 2:05x watch split. He's a great runner and this was done at altitude during an 80 mpw cycle. Recently ran 15:30s at 5000ft.
Friend 2- ran a 2:13 watch split- he's about 195 lbs (30-40 lbs over race weight) and trained about 2 weeks for this effort. Was a one time 3:48 1500m runner. IMHO this is the superior effort.
Friend 3- ran a 2:19.88 (2:20 GPS) he's a stroller dad-runs about 30-35 miles a week but lives the pro lifestyle (works from home and his wife is a pro marathoner). Somehow in his career he ran 14:5x which was close to a miracle.
Friend 4- ran a 2:19x watch split (2:20 GPS) with zero run training in the past 8 years. Was a professional cyclist for a few years but now is a retired cart pulling dad who only rides his bike on bike paths

In the moment, comparison wise:

4 or 2 Depends on how much fatter vs or more muscular he was and what kind of physical activity he had in the years prior. It's still 23 seconds slower than his 1500-800 equivalent. How much riding is he doing? Some people haul ass with a car or push stroller.

Overall though is the 2:05 provided your friends are within a decent age range (5-7years). Everyone can make excuses for what they've done but if they all showed up at the track, you take the winner. There are categories for Age Graded Performance and Paralympics - not LIFE FACTORS PERFORMANCE.

5 years ago 08/11/2020 3:52pm EDT

re: LRC observer

All good points. All friends are within 3 years of age ran on same team and went to university together.

Friend 1- same weight now. Lifetime Prs is 14:20x 5k, 29:40x 10x, 4:12 mile

Friend 2- 30-35 lbs of fat added

Friend 3- maybe 10 lbs of dad weight but overall still lean

Friend 4-same weight. Probably should have put old prs. 8:30 3k, 9:16 steeple. He’s still a very talented cyclist but retired and trains 7-9 hours per week due to bad cycling accident where a driver ran red and bursted his vertebrae.

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